Doug & Barb-L

Henry Musikar scuffling at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 29 08:57:44 CST 2001


Maybe Doug/Barb is dressed provocatively, but you've each had a turn. The
gang bang can stop. Do you really believe that a couple of posts by Doug a
day would ruin the list? If he didn't have to constantly put out for you
frat boys, that's probably all the list would see: a few messages. But you
keep coming... back for more.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terrance" <lycidas2 at earthlink.net>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: Doug & Barb-L


>
>
> Henry Mu wrote:
> >
> > When I was a little boy, I learned that it is incumbent on those that
desire
> > quiet to set a good example.
>
>
> Oh come on Henry, you must be kidding. And if we sit quietly do you
> promise to read
> some of M&D to us? Are there really several conversations going on here?
> Can one
> seriously expect a list devoted to Pynchon's works to survive this
> onslaught of political rants? No way! It won't work. It doesn't work. We
> are all interested in the current events unfolding around us. We all
> have opinions and ideas about them. That's fine. But Doug has taken this
> opportunity to peddle his politics shamelessly. People feel compelled to
> reply to Doug because he is screaming from the corner of the room, his
> dunce cap over his eyes, insulting people both with his insults (calling
> me a drunk, jbor a he-she nazi, Allan a Bush supporting fascist) and his
> militant Leftist propaganda. Please, it is not incumbent on any of us to
> set a good example for Doug. He knows that this is the Pynchon list and
> he knows that in order for it to be the Pynchon list he needs to
> practice a little self control. Unfortunately, he can't and  there are
> always people who give him encouragement. JBframe says, "he's right, you
> guys." Yeah, he may be right occasionally, but what's wrong with Doug's
> posts far outweighs what's right with them. Dave Moroe defends him
> against the gang-bang Doug bring upon himself. You ask me to sit quite
> and set a good example.
>
> At first it seemed possible to have an MDMD discussion and talk about
> what was on everybody's mind--the war, but the NP posts now dominate the
> Pynchon list. Doug has always done this and to a certain extent so have
> we all. Although we all know that postings to the Pynchon list must be
> related to Pynchon, we also know that this rule
> has never been enforced here. But it's now out of control. We can't keep
> a Pynchon dialogue here or and MDMD reading if people are going to be
> fighting and insulting one another because the politicizing the list by
> Doug to satisfy his own selfish needs.
>
> Where is the fun, where is the interesting dialogue, where is the MDMD
> discussion, where are the new members? All gone. The Pynchon list is not
> the Pynchon list at all. Why don't we change the name? It's a sham to
> call this the Pynchon list.
> Doug & Barb News-L is an honest name for it.
>
> Later,
>
> T
>



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