manhood

Tue Sep 18 02:08:58 CDT 2001

It's not the cultural nuances, John.  It's just a matter of how we choose to see things.  Remember how me and you were talking about that? How choice played into Gravity's Rainbow? Then you said something really smart about Sartre and I wished you'd said it to everybody?  Weren't those fellows talking about choice in the simple forms, forms like perception? What we allow ourselves to believe? Whose rhetoric we churn in our minds, are comforted by? It must be awfully hard, though, sometimes. And Pynchon doesn't make it easier. What's a poor fellow do with his big dick and ego when he realizes he's Gottfried? I'm only a girl and I squirmed in my seat when he went up in that rocket, wrapped in that bridal lace and imipolex-G.  It made even me red with shame and anger.  Imagine what it does to a proud young man to see he's been duped and fucked and mechanized and murdered by fathers and countrymen who say they Love them.  Get ready, Liebchen.  
Let's be gentle with our fellows.  What do you say?  They're young and impressionable; and if we don't want Blicero to get them, we gotta persuade them to our side (eh, eh, eh).  Slow steady reiterations--un-conditioning if you will--Pynchon, Moore, Chomsky, one another.  Let's not give up (or let up) on them. Find the zone of love, lick, and kiss[Gottfried]... you have time--there are still a few minutes. 

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Lundy 
  To: 'MalignD at aol.com' ; pynchon-l at waste.org 
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:29 PM
  Subject: RE: RE: RE: crusade

  Cultural nuances have reared their ugly head here.  Where I'm from, calling 
  you "son" in that manner is a term of endearment.  Funny though, I never 
  mentioned your manhood...

  On Tuesday, 18 September 2001 10:21, MalignD at aol.com [SMTP:MalignD at aol.com] 
  wrote:
  >
  > In a message dated 9/18/1 12:16:04 AM, you wrote:
  >
  > <<You're confusing intellectually rigorous debates with personal abuse, 
  an
  > understandable solecism in the current climate.  Lift your game, son,
  > you're a better man than that!>>
  >
  > I'm confusing nothing.  I'm saying that, in this climate, the gates 
  should be
  > open and, if you're offended, you're in the wrong place. 
   Intellectualizing
  > is not the only response.
  >
  > Also--I'm not your son and I have no interest in your evaluation of my
  > manhood.
  >
  > Otherwise, best to you.
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