stockhausen, dario fo

Nika Bertram ame16 at uni-koeln.de
Wed Sep 19 08:01:47 CDT 2001


see? ;) not that i want to sound victorious, but didn't someone just call
me off last week for "not being serious enough" here with pop culture? ;)
i love south park, and i love this movie, and although of course fighting
for the freedom of watching farting animation stars on telly is not the
same like fighting for freedom in the world, this movie might tell us one
or two things about how easily could things get out of hand.. especially
with the world running on microsoft systems ;) ok, this is not funny, i
agree, but there're two more things i'd like to add to this:

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Jasper Fidget wrote:

> "Dude, what the fuck is wrong with German people?" --South Park: Bigger,
> Longer, Uncut

this is a great scene in the movie, and i can tell you that us germans do
have enough sense of humour and self-irony to laugh at this aswell - at
least when i was in the cinema. i watched both the english and german
version of it, and interestingly enough, in the german version, they
changed this sentence to "what the fuck is wrong with english people?"
which not only kills the joke completely (the situation being that the
kids just found out that cartman's mum was involved in some "german
scheisse-movies" with nazis and all, available on the internet - screen:
"you have to be over 18 to enter" kyle: "ok" ;) but also shows the ...
well, i just think we (younger) germans can take on a lot more
self-critique than some media people (obviously german aswell) might
believe..

anyway, it's a great movie, imho.

> This movie--some of which I watched last night--has a plot that couldn't
> have been written after 9/11; the worrisome part of me watched it as a
> satire of recent events (I didn't want to, I swear!), and therefore had to
> turn it off.  Those truly disturbing words by Stockhausen reminded me of
> that quote (repeated only in jest, damn it!  I love Germans.  Had sex with
> one last night).

eh? ;) anyway, also wanted to add that stockhausen's comment are being
heavily criticised in germany aswell right now, eg. in today's faz.
(they call it a "intellectual fall from grace" - and dario fo's comments
a "hackneyed and malicious calculation", both estimations i would agree
with )

> that make the act purer somehow?  I'm curious--since this is translated--did
> Stockhausen use the word "pure" in his statement (lauter?  rein?).  That
> would *really* disturb me.)

no he didn't. no need to worry. maybe he's just a disturbed old man.

wonder why Houellebecq didn't speak up yet. or maybe he's sill counselling
with his agents as to what provocative stance would suit best to the
topic of his current novel..

rebel yell..
nika





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