antw. Re: mddm: the jesuit's secret societies around 1776/: a zauberer sample

Dave Monroe davidmmonroe at yahoo.com
Thu Apr 11 11:55:23 CDT 2002


At library, hoping to find current Vintage Int'l ed.
of Thomas Mann's The Magic Mountain ...

--- lorentzen-nicklaus
<lorentzen-nicklaus at t-online.de> wrote:
> 
> among the living german historians reinhart
> koselleck is probably the most inspired. see also
> his study collection "vergangene zukunft. zur     
> semantik geschichtlicher zeiten"; is there an
> english translation? gone future: on the semantics
> of historical times ...

Kosseleck, Reinhart.  Futures Past: On the
   Semantics of Historical Time.  Trans. Keith
   Tribe.  Cambridge, MA: MIT Press, 1990.

http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?sid=EA0DACF9-999F-4E60-892F-23EFE83C9910&ttype=2&tid=7845

Now out of print, but luckily I was going through my
historiography phase when it came out.  And this is
forthcoming here ...

Koselleck, Reinhart.  The Practice of Conceptual
   History: Timing History, Spacing Concepts.
   Translated by Todd Presner, Kerstin Behnke, and
   Jobst Welge.  Stanford, CA: Stanford UP, 2002.

http://www.sup.org/cgi-bin/search/book_desc.cgi?book_id=4022%204305%20

And I'm now spiralling my way outward in Critique and
Crisis.  See as well Ch. 5, "The Creation of Indirect
Countervailing Powers and the Arcanum of Politics,"
pp. 62-85 ...

"On the Continent there were two social structues that
left a decisive imprint on the Age of Enlightenment:
the Republic of Letters and the Masonic lodges.  From
the outset, Enlightenment and mystery appeared as
historical twins.  Both groups developed a specific
style of language and conduct; what they had in
common, for all their differences, was exactly what
pointed to there being a specific answer to the
Absolutist system...." (p. 62)

Indirect Countervailing Powers = Counterforce?  Hm ...

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