Christianity and Pynchon

[alfredjprufrock at club-internet.fr]

right!
and it seems to me they mention it time and again in M&D (that, shame
on me, i am not reading right now, which is also why i don't take part
in any direct discussion on the book per se).

not that i think that good old dave really meant what he said.
you did not, now did you dave?
and you don't really live in louisiana and think that kind of thing,
now, do you?

greg

PM> And not to forget that, though under British dominance, the Maryland colony was a Catholic refuge granted to Cecil Calvert, Lord
PM> Baltimore, himself a Catholic.

PM> P.

PM> alfredjprufrock at club-internet.fr wrote:

>> DM> One is not MORE important than the other, but the two are important
>> DM> together.  Protestants started this country.  Catholics invaded it later:
>> DM> first the French who supported "enemy" tribes against us, then about a
>> DM> hundred years later the Irish rabble.  But I think in terms of dissecting
>> DM> P's works that it is important to remember this country's founders did not
>> DM> revere the Virgin.
>>
>> er...excuse me?
>>
>> the french were in america before the brits, david my dear. french
>> fishermen in newfoundland from the early 1500s, cartier in 1534.
>> french settlement in florida in 1562... the first brit settlement was in 1587, dare i think.
>>
>> there weren't many of us, mostly fur traders, we never were settlers, but you know. hence we did not invade america, we owned lousiana
>> anyway. the TRUE founders of this country did revere the virgin!!!
>> they put her name everywhere!!! planted signs in her name and in the
>> names of all the saints they could think of. and what about the
>> spaniards in the south?
>>
>> what about the forgotten founders of this country, david, uh? more
>> than the slothrops and winthrops, they're the real losers of america,
>> and as such, are to be taken into account in pynchon's works.
>>
>> man, and how we love that virgin mary...
>>  no but seriously, i think there is something with the catholic side
>>  of america that's been wiped out because it's indeed the history of
>>  the losers, the french, the spaniards, the mexicans. but they're
>>  there alright, the whole time.
>>
>> greg



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