NP? Vineland (andf GR) echoes from a former (?) P-lister

[Otto]

Well Doug,

pretty good job you've done. Yes, keep up the good work. This the kind of
style you would like to see on the P-list too I'm sure.

And, Mr. St Clair, if this is the "investigative journalism" Doug Millison
likes & praises I know now why he's constantly littering the list with non
Pynchon-related posts, opening flame-wars, disturbing group-readings,
misstating & misquoting others etc.

Of course we're all crypto-fascists, holocaust deniers in your opinion. But
as the person Doug continually attacks wrote in one of his last posts to the
list: "'The Establishment' doesn't hold the monopoly on dishonesty and
self-delusion."

You guys still seem to live in the past but that's:

over and out

Otto

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey St. Clair" <sitka at attbi.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>; <pynchonoid at yahoo.com>;
Cc: "Otto" <ottosell at yahoo.de>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: NP? Vineland (andf GR) echoes from a former (?) P-lister


> perhaps it's just that smug little thugs like Herr
> Otto want to suck the politics out of pynchon & reduce the text to
academic
> chitchat about fractals and the like. but try as they might, they can't do
it.
> GR, at least, is a secret history of the forces behind the 20th C--war and
> fascist architecture go hand in hand: to build you must destroy. ask
yourself
> what types of communities were lost to build philip johnson's corporate
palaces?
> GR is, to my mind, about the reconstructing of the world. PJ was one of
the
> builders. Nazis/oil companies/missile makers/steel towers...all one big
machine.
> you can't hide the fact that architecture is all about politics--and one
look at
> any of PJ's structures gives a clear indication of which side he's on. to
deny
> that is a fools game. a great big con job.
>
> over and out.
>
> jsc
>

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