Re: _NP?_ "the_formerly_colonised_coming_back_to_haunt_us"

[Otto]

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Subject: Re: _NP?_ "the_formerly_colonised_coming_back_to_haunt_us"


>
> Any debate on the implied racism or xenophobia in TLOTR, is spectacularly
> obtuse because it ignores the very content of the books. The members of
the
> Fellowship came from different SPECIES for chrissakes. They had to put
aside
> thier culturally imbedded and reinforced mistrust or downright hatred in
> order to cooperate to defeat an inhumane and uncivilized menace. Consider
> the unlikely devoted friendship between Gimli and Legolas. Think of the
> ferocity of Legolas' defense of Gimli before the distrustful and barbaric
> riders of Rohan. The haughty and refined Elves putting aside their own
> potential for isolationist escape coming to the rescue of Rohan at Helm's
> Deep.  The two most similar tribes in the story, Gondor and Rohan must
> overcome a deep and bitter distrust. The crude and ambitiously
ethnocentric
> (or patriotic) Boromir is seduced by his desire for the Ring by his
> rationalization of the good that he can do for his people. In a vain
attempt
> at redemption, he sacrifices himself nobly in the defense of innocents not
> of his own kind. The King of All Men, a synthesis of Prince Hal and Jesus
> Fucking Christ, must continuously prove himself to everybody, but wins the
> undying loyalty of everyone who truly knows him regardless of race.
>
> This is not a racist story. It is truly the opposite.
>

But the Orcs are still dark and black.

>
> The breeding of the Uruk-Hai, orcs and men, is portrayed as an unnatural
> abomination. Is this an argument for racial purity and against
race-mixing?

Well, yes of course.

> Then, what is the love between Arwen and Aragorn?

Because they're both white & Arian it doesn' matter.

>
>The simple Sam is a good
> person who automatically despises and demonizes the pathetic Gollum. The
> conflicted and world weary Frodo recognizes him as a victim of
circumstances
> and shows compassion. You can argue it either way. That's called balance.
> Real life is never balanced that way, but this is a parable.
>
> Oh yeah. I liked the battle scenes.
>

Maybe we should try an online "Red Alert 2"?

> When are we scheduled for "The Secret Integration"?
>

Mar 1 - 21, hosted by Michael Perez .

> Gotta think about Christmas shopping. What do I buy for a 13 year old
niece?
> Joe
>

"The Worst Witch" by Jill Murphy.

Otto

> > --- Otto <ottosell at yahoo.de> wrote:
> >>
> >> But I still love LR and therefor have avoided to
> >> watch the movie(s) yet to keep my own imagination.
> >


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