ahab as luddite
David Morris
fqmorris at hotmail.com
Mon Feb 4 08:37:29 CST 2002
>From: Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
>jbor wrote:
> > > Is Ahab a Luddite?
> >
> > No, I don't believe this is necessarily a 1:1 match, or an
>identification which Melville intended, though the quote Kai posted
>certainly portrayed one aspect of the Luddite mentality: the instinctive
>and obsessive distrust of anything which is outside the bounds of the
>purely subjective experience of the individual. The question posed for me
>is something like, "can this aspect of Luddism become manifested as
>fascism"?
>
>I don't think so. Was there ever a fascist regime that deliberately set out
>to destroy machines? Luddism from the beginning was directed against
>capitalism, no? It is much closer to anarchism than to fascism, I believe.
>On the other hand, I am inclined to think that both MD and GR contain a
>devastating critique of the romantic world view, to which Luddism seems to
>belong more or less. Ahab and Blicero are both romanticists - searching for
>original harmony, longing for the mystical experience of everything falling
>into place, of everything being connected. They may reach this kind of
>epiphany (though Ahab doesn't get quite as far), but it is a wholly
>subjective experience: It is what Foppl experiences in V. while
>slaughtering the Herero and raping their women.
Interesting discussion above. On one hand Ludd and Blicero are opposites.
Ludd's romantacism was anti-technological. Blicero's is pro-technological.
But Ludd didn't seek the transcendent experience that Ahab and Blicero do.
Ludd's goals were purely political: he sought to maitain the existing
decentralized production (and power). He comes off a little bit insane,
tilting at windmills, because his goal was already impossible, just as is
trying to stop bio-engineering.
Here's an interesting "Neo-Luddite" manifesto:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/a/f/afd108/neo-ludd.htm
>>>>The origin of "King Ludd" and the other similar names has been lost to
>>>>the shadows of history, but the name "Luddite" denoting a person who
>>>>fears technology has endured. However, what the Luddites feared, was not
>>>>the technology itself, but the loss of individuality, and
>>>>self-sufficiency it represented.
>>>>The Luddite movement was a watershed event at the beginning of the
>>>>Industrial Revolution. We look back on it now from the end of that era.
>>>>The Industrial Revolution was a fascinating period that brought about
>>>>profound changes in the human condition. In addition to the labor unrest
>>>>the Luddite movement foreshadowed, we saw increased urbanization and
>>>>mechanization. And we coined new terms like anomie and alienation to
>>>>describe what we were experiencing.
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