mddm (ch. 32): twins

[Otto]

While I agree with you on the twin imago concerning Max & Moritz, you'll
have to explain to me the senex & puer-connection here.

I've never read whole the essay on Senex & Puer by James Hillman, got only
this short quote from an essay on GR, but it seems to be fitting to M&D too:

"The senex makes order particularly through boundaries: your kingdom and
mine; concious and unconscious; body and mind... . Boundary is necessary for
properties and possessions, for territory and ownership... . The idea of a
self, an enclosed and individual proprium, requires boundary and boundary is
made by the senex."
--Hillman: On Senex Consciousness, p. 151.

(James Hillman, "Senex and Puer: An Aspect of the Historical and
Psychological Present," _Eranos Jahrbuch_, 36 (1967); "On Senex
Consciousness," _Spring_ (1970); und "Psychology: Monotheistic or
Polytheistic," _Spring_ (1971), quoted by:
Klaus Poenicke, "Die Rückkehr des Dionysos: Ordnung, Freiheit und Regression
in Gravity's Rainbow," in: Gerhard Hoffmann (ed.), _Der zeitgenössische
amerikanische Roman. Von der Moderne zur Postmoderne_, Wilhelm Fink Verlag,
München 1988, pp. 259-276.

Otto

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see also pp. 757f of "gravity's rainbow"; though max & moritz may not be
biological twins, they certainly do meet the cultural imago ~

"'steuerung klar?' he asks the boy at the steering panel.
'ist klar.' in the lights from the panel, max's face is hard, stubborn gold.
'treibwerk klar?'
'ist klar,' from moritz at the rocket motor panel. into the phone dangling
at
his neck, he tells the operation room, 'luftlage klar.'
'schlüssel auf  s c h i e s s e n,' orders blicero." (757)


note that the twin motiv appears here in combination with the constellation
of
senex & puer.


kfl