More on Brent & the Antichrist

[barbara100 at jps.net]

>>Stick around, however, and share some of your insight into Pynchon, instead 
>>of just asking the list to do a better job of entertaining you. 

>Doug Tactic #1: Distort opponent's point. In this case, Brent was not  
>seeking entertainment, but illumination about Pynchon, which is,  
>after all, one of the main purposes of the List. 

Ah, ah, ah, Quail, that was one of the best lines of yesterday.  This Brent person, someone who claims he's been here for years but never speaks, suddenly having the audacity to tell us how to to entertain/illuminate him?  No, no, no. That's just plain stepping out of line. Had Terrance said it himself (oh, yes, Quail, Terarnce; betcha another nickel!) that's one thing. But Brent? Who the fuck is Brent to be making demands on anybody here? The man who never speaks suddenly telling us what to do? It just doesn't make any sense. People have to pay a certain amount of dues before they go making demands like that. You know?

So how come you didn't go to the gathering?  I had visions of you and Doug meeting, shaking hands. It woulda been nice, no?

Happy New Year!

Barbara 



Original Message:
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From: The Great Quail quail at libyrinth.com
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 11:18:32 -0500
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: More on Brent & the Antichrist


Doug writes,

>Let's see -- you contacted me offlist and explained you think Barbara is "a
>major annoyance of the screaming harpy bitch variety", but you think I'm
>only a "minor annoyance," and you consider this an "apology"?  Just
>curious, but what would you consider an insult?

Doug Tactic #12: Violate Netiquette and betray confidence by using 
off-list postings on-list, all under a mask of polite engagement in 
an issue.

>Buddy, you are getting off to a rough start in 2002.  I really hope things
>start looking brighter for you.  I'm adding you to my prayer list pronto.

Doug Tactic #7: Imply that his opponent has some sort of bad personal 
life, and that his only way of venting this frustration is to abuse 
the List. Note the faux-pious religious angle, further enshrining 
himself behind a fortress of mock politeness and false caring.

>You'll also know, I guess,
>that the list is unmoderated, and that -- last time I checked -- Pynchon-L
>is not seeking to engage a moderator to manage the discussion.

Doug Tactic #2: Non sequitur made for no reason except to pin 
negative things upon his opponent.

Doug Tactic #6: Imply or accuse that opponent wishes for a moderated 
List, even when Doug is one of the only people who actually desires 
this.

>Stick around, however, and share some of your insight into Pynchon, instead
>of just asking the list to do a better job of entertaining you.

Doug Tactic #1: Distort opponent's point. In this case, Brent was not 
seeking entertainment, but illumination about Pynchon, which is, 
after all, one of the main purposes of the List.

>  I'd love
>to hear what you have to say.

Doug Tactic #2: Lying through his teeth about his intentions. Usually 
done to bolster his mask of false politeness.

--Big Bird

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