antw. Re: Vineland mediocre?

[Monica Belevan]

I remember the Hoffmann film, yes! The mere dialogue of the play, in print 
form, even at that rather frigid level of dramaturgy, was incredibly moving. 
DOAS is a very ascertained play-- it´s almost clean of redundancies, and on 
the whole, even at trans-genre comparative inoperacy, DOAS ousts Vineland. 
Completely.

And so does Gatsby, and so does Absalom.

That doesn´t mean Vineland is not underestimated. It has it´s place in the 
framework of the Pynchon canon. However, as an ´´ American novel´´, or in 
the context of the ´´ American novel´´, it´s greatly diminished, not only by 
classics like Fitzgerald and Faulkner, but also by the finer points in 
Pynchon, who is truly a stratospheric writer in his best moments ( moments 
far more often than not).

Salut, Moni

>From: "Tim Strzechowski" <dedalus204 at attbi.com>
>To: "Pynchon-L" <pynchon-l at waste.org>, "David Morris" 
><fqmorris at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: antw. Re: Vineland mediocre?
>Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:14:10 -0500
>
>
>You are correct.  The Hoffman version is incredible, and the concluding
>scene between Willy and Biff ("You are not a dime a dozen!  You are Biff
>Loman and I am Willy Loman!") will move your emotions like anything!  A
>phenomenal film.
>
> >
> > Well, have you seen the film version with Dustin Hoffman and John
>Malkovich?
> >   It was fantastic!  See it if you haven't, and maybe you'll agree then.
> >
> > And remember, I don't like _Vineland_ very much.  Of course one's a 
>novel
> > and the other's a play, but I think one can be better than the other.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> > David Morris
> >
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