Humpty Dumpty Restored: When Disorder Lurches Into Order

David Morris fqmorris at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 30 13:53:39 CDT 2002


Framing the discussion as you do in terms of probabilities instead of laws 
is interesting, but the phenomenal difference in the "probable" behavior of 
matter and energy at sub-atomic level was the point of the article.  A 
difference in the effectiveness of forces (whatever they are) on sub-atomic 
matter which had not previously been observed.

DM

>From: MalignD at aol.com
>
>>http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/30/science/physical/30ENTR.html
>>
>>Not all the universe is falling apart all of the time.
>>
>>An experiment by scientists in Australia has shown that a small patch of 
>>disorder can momentarily lurch into order, akin to Humpty Dumpty's 
>>magically putting himself back together again.
>>
>>That would appear to violate the second law of thermodynamics, which 
>>states that entropy, a measure of disorder, rises inexorably unless an 
>>outside energy source maintains things in order. A billow of smoke always 
>>disperses, never contracts. >>
>
>Has it not long been the position of Hume-descended physicists that "laws," 
>even Newton's, are in fact probabilities?  That, just as pure chance will 
>allow for a run of 30 flipped coins all coming up heads, so would chance 
>operate elsewhere in nature.
>
>It was (in my understanding) Clerk Maxwell's point not just to confound 
>with the idea of the Demon (How do he do it?), but that, even without a 
>sorting demon, chance allows for the molecules to sort themselves into all 
>faster in one chamber, all slower in the other, thus increasing heat in the 
>first chamber without an expenditure of energy.  The second law of 
>thermodynamics is no less dependable for that, in that the probability for 
>such a random sorting is extremely low.  But it is not, finally, a "law," 
>fixed forever, unbreakable anywhere at any time.
>




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