votex & ashes

David Morris fqmorris at hotmail.com
Fri Jun 7 20:51:28 CDT 2002


Your complaints w/ jbor's posts might find sympathisers, such is politics.  
But only the weak would let him hamper their thoughts on this list (God 
knows there is much room for thoughts of any caliber lately).  Some here are 
expansive and some reductive.  Que serra.

It was I who warned that this list would soon belong to Doug.  But my 
withdrawl from him has reduced his output, and sans our fight so of this 
entire list it seems (except Monroe the ubiquitous).  Don't blame it on 
jbor.  Entropy???

Good lists are hard to find.  The James Joyce list is wonderful for those so 
inclined.  So did this one used to be...

Life moves on,

David Morris

>From: public domain <publicdomainboquita at yahoo.com>
>
>How very self-indulgent! Notwithstanding your
>unconscionable impudence in answering with such
>plausible gravity. We can't inject you with
>imagination so we will have to put up with your
>reducing our posts to lexical coincidence. And, as to
>questions posed in order that discussion might proceed
>in some direction other than that charted by your
>supreme command of this ship of folly, we can't  pry
>your hands from the wheel. Why Jbor, if it must come
>to that, what are we to do? So long ago as that tragic
>day, 11th of September, did not some list participant
>write an incomparable letter to this Listserve warning
>that the politics of one Californian American and the
>ego of one Australian would surely be the ruin of us
>all.  Now, welcome aboard no fabulous orgy, but a ship
>of entropy shored upon these ruined fragments edited
>and chiseled down to an Ezra's liberal-fascist
>conspiracy and a Pound of cheap Australian sterling.
>
>"The only way of expressing emotion in the form of art
>is by finding an "objective correlative"; in other
>words, a set of objects, a situation, a chain of
>events, which shall be the formula of that particular
>emotion…."
>
>- T.S. Eliot
>
>You may want to read Eliot's "Preludes"
>I am moved by fancies that are curled
>Around these images, and cling:
>The notion of some infinitely gentle
>Infinitely suffering thing.
>
>Wipe your hand across your mouth, and laugh;
>The worlds revolve like ancient women
>Gathering fuel in vacant lots.
>
>Eliot's fragmented worlds are like ancient women
>gathering fuel in vacant lots. The protagonist of the
>  Modernist CL49 is named Oediapa. She is ancient and
>modern. The novel includes a fragmented  world or
>worlds and these revolve around her-the novel is
>organized not so much by the literary application of a
>philosophical or scientific principle as in the short
>stories (Entropy)  as by the actions and thoughts of
>the protagonist. Like Eliot's women in "The
>Wasteland", Oedipa inhabits a land of waste,
>sterility, fairytale towers and 'Snow White' 60s
>parody. I have to agree with Jay the bore, the
>re-working of "Under the Rose" and Pynchon's criticism
>of his slow learning tales tells us a lot.
>
>
>
>
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