the aesthetics of ugliness was: antw. light summer reading

Clément Levy cl.levy at free.fr
Wed Jun 26 11:29:23 CDT 2002


Don't worry, dear, I wouldn't be soooo hard with H's ugliness if it wasn't 
gratuitious. Sade makes philosophy, doesn't he? So as Bataille. The same 
for a giant poet like Lautréamont or Artaud or Genet. I didn't read Sade or 
Bataille so often, but I know a bit Artaud and Genet (by the way, you don't 
need to say de Sade, or de Beaumarchais although you need to say d'Alembert 
or d'Orléans. We can say De Gaulle because this is not a french lord's 
name, it must be flemish or something like that. But when there's a vowel, 
you keep the d', when it's a consonne, chop the de. The easy way is to say 
the first names : Alphonse d'Este. It's the same with des. Look at Huysmans 
and his des Esseintes).
Houellebecq only makes money with his books. That's all he wants. That's 
why he lives in Ireland where taxes are lower than in France.
Bettre re-read all Sade than Houellebecq, who doesn't diserve your 
attention. But just for a try it might be cool. In this kind of things, 
Bret Easton Ellis may be much better (he has no political and odious 
discourse).
Pardon my incorrections in English. Hasta la vista.
Clément


Monica Belevan à dit à ÒRe: the aesthetics of ugliness was: antw. light 
summer readingÓ.
[2002/06/26 15:27:43]

> 
> Clement, I have not read Huellebecq but was considering to do so soon. 
> 
> Is your assessment entirely personal, on an intimate dislike for forced 
> ugliness--perhaps you do not approve of the writings of de Sade, 
> Lautreamont, Genet, Artaud or Bataille for the same reasons--but given my 
> taste for such writers, could I find Huellebecq attractive? 
> 
> Is the ugliness gratuitious, or is it aimed at something?
> A taste of things to come, comme ils dissent. 
> 
> Salut, cher.
> Monica
> 
> 
> --- Clément Levy <cl.levy at free.fr> wrote:
> >Well, you could try, but i'm afraid it's not worth it. This guy has no 
> >style except he chooses the ugly (in his language as in his plots). I 
> only 
> >read his first novel (Extension du domaine de la lutte), but the 
> struggle 
> >(lutte) really should turn to be against him, not against what he thinks 
> >our contemporean values are. Because his struggle against them is 
> >desperate, coward and insane. In this first novel, he tells about 
> consumer 
> >society in sex affairs. Some people have a great capital, lovers and so 
> on, 
> >some other don't. So why not try to give someone the pleasures they are 
> >frustrated of, even by violent ways, by pushing them to rape and murder? 
> >This is what he writes about (should i say write?). Of course his ideas 
> are 
> >a critic against Sexual liberation or so. But he first wants to attract 
> >readers by horrible stories about sex. His last novel: a trip to 
> Thailand 
> >with childrenfuckers, in which the hero meets the woman he'll love. I 
> only 
> >heard about it, and not much because 09/11 came just after this book was 
> >published... Many people found it attractive just because of these young 
> >protitutes. It must be rubbish. I won't try. I must read GR or Vineland 
> >before!
> >Bye-bye.
> >Clément
> >
> >lorentzen-nicklaus à dit à Òantw. light summer readingÓ.
> >[2002/06/26 12:07:43]
> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> * try --- michel houellebecq: les particules élémentaires [1998]
> >> 
> >>  (dtsch. elementarteilchen. münchen 2001: list taschenbuch)
> >> 
> >> it's straight, funny, and full of valid observations on contemporary 
> >> continental 
> >> life. one pynchonesque thing about it is the use of natural-scientific 
> >> key 
> >> metaphors. best french writer since céline ... kfl ***
> >> 
> >> 
> >>    
> >> 
> >>
> 
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