MDMD Christ & History

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Terrance schrieb:

> Otto wrote:
> > 
> > I don't know if the Jesuit-question is at the core of M&D and I don't see
> > them presented negatively by Pynchon, more the contrary.

> I don't see them as either negative or positive, but as the perfect
> example of what M&D is all about. Also, when P was writing this book and
> the novel V. (and I have been able to identify several popular fictions
> with Jesuit protagonists that P read) 

>the Jesuit question had to do, as
> it does today, with Marxism.

  in this context it might be interesting to note that thomas mann (whose mother 
  had roots in south american catholicism) modelled - in "der zauberberg", the  
  magic mountain, from 1924 - the jesuit leo naphta after the marxist critic and 
  philosopher georg lukács, who, funny enough, didn't get it. i assume that 
  jesuits can enjoy the parallel much better than marxists ... 

  the magic mountain which i'm currently reading is btw a fucking great book!

  cordially: kai  //:: ps: could the religious dynamics in pynchon's works have 
                          to do with his cultural experience of                 
                         "bi-confessionality"?     

> While I think P rejects Marxism, he sends
> the Basque founder of the Society of Jesus to the Pagan sewers after he
> argues Marxism, he leans very far to the left side and the East side.