re MDMD: America

[Dave Monroe]

Round Two?  An exhibition, not a competition.  Please,
no wagering ...

--- Terrance <lycidas2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>  
> Mason, one could argue, is more a pacifist than
> Dixon. 

More passive, at any rate, vs. the indeed more active
Dixon.  A complementarity, again, that, without any
particular historical basis, is deeply embedded in
Mason and Dixon lore nonetheless ...

http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0112&msg=63828&sort=date

http://www.webincunabula.com/html/la/latrobe_41.jpg

> The only person Mason ever threatens to hurt
> of kill is RC and he's far from serious about it.
> Could be all the Gothical stuff his into.
> 
> Pynchon is a much better author than Doug or Dave or
> most critics realize.

Not sure what this is about here, esp. having gone to
no small effort to demonstrate how even the apparently
smallest of Pynchon's efforts apparently emerge from,
not to mention open onto, a mindbogglingly vast body
of knowledge and excrutiatingly painstaking attention
to detail.  And that's just the little territory I've
chosen for my own little survey, so ...

> Of course Doug can't know this because he simply
> doesn't read enough literature and he reads a lot of
> crap. Dave Monroe just likes to play coach and
> lawyer to Doug and others like Hollander because he
> agrees with their politics, what a shame.

Trust me, nobody plays Coach to Hollander.  Or Doug. 
And all I play here beyond research librarian without
portfolio is occasional peace ... activist?  advocate,
at any rate.  Though, perhaps like yr Mr. Dixon there,
I'm obviously capable of less pacific forms of
activity myself ...
 
> OK, got the balls to respond to what i say about
> M&D? No, I doubt it.

Guess I just haven't felt the urge, is all.  Either I
haven't strongly agreed or disagreed, haven't been
otherwise interested, or haven't quite had an idea of
what yr on about.  Pretty much all of the above, in
turns.  Sure you all know the feeling ...
 
> At the massacre site Mason is like a Nun at a
> shrine, not a very violent description, while Dixon
> can not get on his knees.  His thoughts include
> violent retribution and murder. 
> 
> After the adventure on the Seahorse Dixon kids about
> commanding a regiment for the RS, but when
> Mason says, hey, you're a Quaker, you can't go to
> war, Dixon says, not really, got the boot, and I may
> kill anyone I choose.
> 
> Dixon sports a red coat of military cut ...

http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0109&msg=59727&sort=date

> ... and hangs out in the Jolly Pitman with tough
> working class men. He goes out looking for adventure
> and he's not afraid to find it. More than once he
> nearly punches out Mason, once aboard a ship. This
> guy is a very attractive character, but not because
> he's a pacifist.
> 
> I'm not sure Mason gonna have my back, but I don't
> have to ask Dixon, I know, that motherfucker gonna
> be there.

I do not disagree with these last few paragraphs, at
any rate ...

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