medoshnicka bleelar medoometnozz

[calbert at hslboxmaster.com]

There is a little more to it, I suspect..........I was hoping the resident
russian would have checked in by now...


My russian, having never developed past the larval, even with the aid of
the definitive dictionary is insufficient for much more than pointing out
that Medoshnika MAY be a diminuitive of "honey" (likely representing a
russification of that idiomatic term of endearment), bleelar is
undecipherable (appears to be another language if anything at all),
medoometnozz has all the features of a transliterated russian noun - the
double o's usually signifying a "y", and the "nozz" also very close to a
russian phoneme....

Bergamot, of course, is the "essential oil" which makes Earl Grey tea so
cloying

http://www.1001herbs.com/bergamot/

.....


love,
cfa
 
Original Message:
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From: jbor jbor at bigpond.com
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:17:49 +1100
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Re: medoshnicka bleelar medoometnozz


But if it is a conventional cryptic crossword clue, then the whole series
between "say" and "playful fantasy" would be the anagram, wouldn't it?

    <<medoshnicka bleelar medoometnozz in bergamot and>>

    o rocketman, blaming dreams in the blaze-doomed zone

("Blame" and "blaze" could be interchangeable, and there are other possible
variations I'm sure.)

Der Springer, who is the one "blither[ing]" the meaningless nonsense in
which those three gibberish words on p.746 are enclosed, is neither a
Manichaean nor, from memory, is he personally-acquainted with either Blicero
or Enzian, and the two sequences occur in entirely different temporal and
narrative contexts, so I'm not sure how or why Weisenburger is even
attempting to force a connection with the earlier passage.

Personally, I don't think that treating Pynchon's text as if it were a
cryptic crossword puzzle is a particularly productive interpretive exercise.
To me, the three words read a little like the Russian-derived argot invented
by Anthony Burgess for Alex and the "droogs" in _A Clockwork Orange_. But
the point of the scene in _GR_ seems to be simply that in the movie playing
under the rug "Back in Der Platz" there is a sudden shot of der Springer
himself, drug-fucked and raving (and perhaps even grieving or on a bender in
tribute to Rocketman) after hearing of Slothrop's final "scattering" which
is recounted in the sections immediately preceding this scene.

best               


on 22/11/02 6:38 PM, Otto at ottosell at yahoo.de wrote:

> Steven Weisenburger:
> This is the "sacred idiolalia of the Primal Twins" mentioned at 727.11-12.
> Puzzled out, the anagram  yields the following words, put them together
> howsoever one will: "the blicero enzian mammon gets zero black doomed."
One
> possible reading: "Mammon doomed Blicero; the black Enzian gets zero."
> WEISENBURGER, STEVEN: A Gravity's Rainbow Companion - Sources and Contexts
> for Pynchon's Novel, The University of Georgia Press, Athens & London
1988,
> p. 307
> 
> regards
> 
> Otto
> 


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