Is Pynchonoid AKA

[barbara100 at jps.net]

Okay I'll pass this  one along.  I should think he'd not want to miss it.  I
know I wouldn't. Then again I don't filter anybody out.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Terrance" <lycidas2 at earthlink.net>
To: <pynchonoid at pynchonoid.org>
Cc: "Simon Bryquer-RR" <sbryquer at nyc.rr.com>; "Pynchon-L"
<pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: Is Pynchonoid AKA


>
>
> pynchonoid wrote:
> >
> > You'll fit right in with Morris, Mackin, Terrance, and
> > Otto, it seems -- they have a hard time finding
> > something to write about besides me, too.
>
> Oh  Scoop. Paul is a pretty smart old man and he can read the
> newspapers. I'm sure he can afford to have several papers delivered to
> his home and so he doesn't need you tossing your rags on his porch. And
> he's much smarter than you, Doug. And much better read.  That pisses you
> off. MalignD probably read more novels then you by the time he left the
> second grade. That pisses you off too. You can't stand to read anything
> lit-crit or anything too dense. Can't quite figure out why Dave Monroe
> is constantly coming to your rescue because the bibliographies, notes
> and excerpts he provides to this list are exactly the stuff you can't
> stand. You honestly believe that the only worthy approach to Pynchon is
> the conspiracy/political read. There is a great line in the movie Good
> Will Hunting where the kid tells the shrink that he reads all the wrong
> books. Think about that. The kid also tells the shrink that a few
> hundred dollars in over-due fines at at the public library is all it
> cost him to get an education. Think about this too, you can't control
> what is to become of Pynchon. Critics will twist and turn him as the
> academic winds blow. That's how it goes. It has been the case for every
> writer worth reading for some time and it will be more so I think in the
> future. So give it up. Also, I get all the newspapers you deliver here
> for free. Had to laugh at Monroe's defense of you one day when he
> suggested I check out the New York papers. Hello! They're downstairs
> piled in the lobby of my building, dozens of them. And they are free.
> And reading them on paper is better for my eyes. We don't need Cockburn
> jammed down our throats from the newsboy on the Pynchon List. We can
> read the guy if we want to. And not only in the Guardian you deliver. So
> stop. You read GR when it was published and you may have some good
> insights about some of the possible resonances in that novel, but even
> you if do, you have never been able to convince anyone here (well,
> certain conspiracy theorists will applaud anything you can say that
> makes them feel anti-American american and these same jerks, like you
> and JBframe have absolutely no tolerance for the serious critiques of
> america coming from our non-american friends on list) that what you are
> so very sure Pynchon is talking about is in his novels. Bananas? What
> about them? You don't know. If you did, you would tell us, but all you
> do is quote the book like some evangelical bible thumper and link up a
> bunch of googled conspiracy e-texts.
>
> "Oh! but but but Pynchon reads the Guardian and the Observer and the
> Voice says...."
>
> Yeah, we know Doug, we can read those too.
>
>
> And stop trying to create a cartoon of right-wing conservative
> boot-licking fascists. It's not working. Well, I'm playing into it to
> amuse poor JBframe, but god, please, wake up and smell the shit your
> dumping on us.
>
> Stop, prevent, end, the wars, wherever they are.
>
> PS Doug, have you ever been to Brazil? Or any CA or SA nation?