NPPF - The Big G
Paul Mackin
paul.mackin at verizon.net
Tue Aug 5 09:52:17 CDT 2003
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 16:56, David Morris wrote:
>
> 549: While snubbing gods including the big G,
>
> Why would this be a logical starting point for exploration into the
> hereafter? If the intent was not to be partisan, that still wouldnt rule
> out some G or another. Kinbotes comments on the subject and his reported
> conversation with Shade on the subject show K at his most lucid and insightful.
> IPHs offhand rejection of God ignores Aquinas, which is at the heart of Ks
> argument w/ Shade (although he attempts to quote Augustine). ((BTW, Im just
> barely conversant with these guys)). It is very interesting that the
> possibilities IPH tries to prepare the newly minted ghost for do parallel the
> kind of afterlife K reasons is likely if there were no God-the-Designer. It is
> a torrent of currents and spiral eddies, a chaotic mix of ethereal forces
> without order.
>
> http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/a/aquinas.htm
> Thomas Aquinas:
> The greatest work of Thomas was the Summa and it is the fullest presentation
> of his views. [
]This follows from the fivefold proof for the existence of God;
> namely, there must be a first mover, unmoved, a first cause in the chain of
> causes, an absolutely necessary being, an absolutely perfect being, and a
> rational designer.
>
> Augustine:
> In [Christian Doctrine] Augustine then states the essentials of Christian
> belief in God, with a most important preamble: God is ineffable, that is, we
> can say nothing truly meaningful about one who transcends the categories of
> human language.
>
> I believe one of Aquinas major points is that since God is unknowable by human
> means, Revelation is absolutely required, which means GOD has to do the
> unveiling of himself, not the other way around.
Not exactly. Thomas Aquinas held that God can be known by natural
reason. (revelation fills in the details)
Augustine also.
>
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