VLVL Frenesi & Brock

[Otto]

Brock is master, Frenesi servant in this relationship:

"Sounds like one more of those bullshit State degradation rituals, thanks
anyway but I'll pass."
"Oh - you'd have no choice. You'd have to come." He was smiling.
She moved her pretty jaw a little forward. "I wouldn't come."
"Then a man in a uniform, with a big pistol, would have to make you come."
(201.11-17)

Note the sexual content of this conversation. He's seducing her.

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Otto

----- Original Message -----
From: "jbor" <jbor at bigpond.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: VLVL Frenesi & Brock


> on 9/8/03 8:37 PM, lorentzen-nicklaus at lorentzen-nicklaus at t-online.de
> wrote:
>
> > so your point was -- what?
>
> Just what I wrote. Frenesi was the one who went after Brock, not vice
versa.
> See pp. 199-201. In particular:
>
>     She was wondering instead why she'd worn this little miniskirt
>     today when it would have made more sense to wear pants. (201.20)
>
> She gets back with him again after she has left Zoyd and Prairie too, when
> Brock's "erect penis had become the joystick with which, hurtling into the
> future, she would keep trying to steer among the hazards and obstacles ...
"
>
(292-3)
>
> best
>
>
> >> Frenesi is the one who goes after Brock, not vice versa.
> >>
> >
> >
> > "' ... remember last time, when i told you not to bathe, hm? because i
knew
> > you'd be seeing him that night, knew he'd go down on you --- didn't he?
ate
> > your pussy, hm? of course i know, because he told me. you were coming in
his
> > face and he was tasting me all the time ... you're the medium weed and i
use
> > to communicate, that's all, this set of holes, pleasantly framed, this
little
> > femme scampering back and forth with scented messages tucked in her
little
> > secret places'."
> >
> >
> > --- sez brock (213f), and katherine hayles has more on the issue:
> >
> >
> > "as in Gravity's Rainbow, the forbidden exercises its spell through
sexual
> > obsession. the liaison, as dangerous politically for brock as for
frenesi,
> > nevertheless is constituted through an asymmetrical power relation.
brock is
> > the seducer; frenesi the seduced. the seduction is enacted by brock's
> > persuading frenesi to turn informant (209-10). 'to seduce' here returns
to its
> > etymological meaning 'to separate' (from the latin  s e d u c e r e),
for
> > frenesi's seduction marks her slippage from the kinship to the snitch
system.
> > she is alienated by it both from her parents and from the allegiances of
> > 24fps, the radical film collective she helped organize. attempting to
> > reestablish connection with a history she has lost, frenesi tries to
reenter
> > the kinship system by leaving brock, marrying zoyd, and giving birth to
> > prairie."   (the vineland papers, pp. 17f)