Iraq

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on 2/8/03 10:50 AM, Mutualcode at aol.com at Mutualcode at aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 2/8/2003 8:44:06 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ottosell at yahoo.de writes:


Yes, when the US-government gets the veto on the second resolution they
want we'll see.

Otto

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America has already lost, bro. Any war with Iraq from a military pov
is a forgone conclusion. It is as ridiculous as attacking Rhode
Island, at least in the short term. Later, with regional destabilization,
guerilla movements, terrorism, etc., the real cost of "victory" will
become known.

But this stand by the French and especially the Germans is quite
unique and unprecedented. We should have been able to see it
in the demeanor of Rumsfeld. He is anything but the representation
of a strong and self-assured super-power. He is, rather, the
personification of our weakness: blustery and arrogant. He is
anything but masterful and persuasive. Powell, who is capable
of being human, is much more powerful, but, alas, he is trapped in his
role. He sold his soul when he signed on to the Bush administration.
Better men have succumbed to ambition. Still, there is the heroic
racial archetype of Jackie Robinson, but this ain't baseball. Unfortunately,
it seems, war has become our new national pastime.

No. It's all over 'cept for the screamin' and the shoutin', which may come
quickly. The real competition has not been between America and
Iraq, or Osama and Bush, but between Oceania: the English-speaking
world, and what Rumsfeld, in his dreams, wishes were the slightly less
advanced, Euro-alliance- headed by the Germans and the French. The
Euros have a longer and clearer vision of the world, which includes
strength through diplomacy and compromise. The Euros have gained
significant power from overcoming their thousand year history of
regionalism, and it shows.

America, with its assumption of divine right to cheap oil and rigged
markets, has already lost, no matter what happens in the middle east.
America, as the world's mega-consumer- bloated and staggering
around the ring- is going down; not out, we'll survive, but, god willing,
humbler and more respecting of the world community. Perhaps we
might even re-consider re-joining the world community and signing on
to Kyoto.

Entropy works both ways- as America declines the rest of the world
rises. We just need a little grace, is all. Or, to paraphrase the late
Dag Hammarskjöld:

      Do not seek entropy. Entropy will find you.

respectfully



Before I go through the 55 remaining e-mails that I have this evening, I
would like to be associated with the remarks of the previous speaker.

Respectfully,
Joe 
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