Two Good Reasons

[thomas kyhn rovsing hjoernet]

On 22/02/03 3:09, "prozak at anus.com" <prozak at anus.com> wrote:

> 
>>> > > "soul" would come in degrees, unless you think reality is mostly
>>> > > binary?
>>> > > 
>> > I don¹t. But I find the concept of ³soul² highly problematic, except,
>> > perhaps, when used metaphorically.
> 
> it is not originally my usage
> 
You, as it were, endorsed the concept of ³soul² by using it without
indicating the least critical distance to it.
> 
>>>>> > >> > If so, would that also be the case
>>>>> > >> > if it was a rejection of metaphysics?
>>> > > 
>>> > > to reject metaphysics in all forms is a nihilism so profound no art
>>> > > would be created
>>> > > 
>> > So, a ³non-metaphysical art² would be impossible? How is that? You don¹t
>> > think ³art² can exist at ³sign level,² as, for example, a vehicle for
>> > ³non-metaphysical meaning²?
> 
> attempting a linear socratic analysis of something this complex with
> vocabulary control will lead to a total void of communication
> 
(?)
> 
> i think art exists as a vehicle for artistic thought, which includes
> metaphysics and related disciplines, including ethics, epistemology,
> etc.
> 
OK.

>> > I can¹t see how nihilism would prevent the production of ³art.²
> 
> that's not what i said

Right.
> 
> "to reject metaphysics in all forms is a nihilism so profound no art
> would be created"

So, ³art production² is dependent on metaphysics (/non-rejection of
metaphysics)? Why is that?
The materiality and meaning/discursiveness of ³art² seems not to be
dependent on metaphysical assumptions. Why should its production depend on
such assumptions? 
And once more: you wrote, ŒMetaphysics is within the realm of art, at least
as I see it, and thus any art which addresses something more than surface
(aesthetics, dogma, socialization) communicates at this level.¹ I take this
to mean that the kind of ³art² specified communicates at ³the level of
metaphysics.² Now, if ³art² is capable of having materiality and
meaning/discursiveness without these qualities depending on metaphysics
(which is not to say that it cannot address issues of metaphysics,
epistemology, etc.), why would it communicate at ³the level of metaphysics²?
+ How do you determine that it does so? 

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