why throwing around words like "anti-semitism" is fascism

prozak at anus.com prozak at anus.com
Wed Feb 26 17:41:25 CST 2003


> >>> > > Anyone can call anything truth, but it does not make it so.
> >> > 
> >> > According to what?
> > 
> > According to logical assessment.
> > 
> Your Œlogical assessment¹ depends on a language, right?

No, it's expressed in a language; algorithms can be coded in many 
languages.

> > They continue to preach that individual opinions are each correct,
> > regardless of their contradiction.
> 
> Sure. Just like Bush.

Exactly. He's claiming that because the West is more "Democratic" 
than Iraq, we have the right to own nuclear weapons, and they don't.

> >>> > > So says one "point of view"; however, it also hopes to be "true."
> >>> > > Since it just vanished in the shambles of paradox,
> >>> > > 
> >> > Quite an easy refutation, no? Perhaps you could explain how you can operate
> >> > with a Œtruth concept¹ without criteria that are established in a system of
> >> > signification.
> > 
> > This is linguistic confusion here:
> > 
> Some universal argument you¹ve got there, Œlinguistic confusion.¹ How,
> exactly, do you know that you are not affected by it yourself?

I'm not attributing linguistic confusion to either party; I'm saying 
that the subtopic has been framed in confusion.

> > first, to assert that objective
> > truth doesn't exist is to be fooled by language; language assesses
> > truth, but descriptions are also true in the sense that they to the
> > degree possible accurately portray eventiture in external reality.
> > 
> External to what?

External to the observer.

> > 2 + 2 = that's correct, an answer is needed. Second, to assert that
> > subjectivism - all truth is within the individual - is anything more
> > than dressed-up absolutism is error.
> 
> You wrote: Œmaybe it's wisest to stick with what we know, e.g. logical
> truth.¹ What do you mean by Œlogical truth¹? Is that logic as in formal
> logic?

Philosophical logic - the term "formal logic" is often used to refer 
to logical systems which function only within, to my mind, their own 
narrow scope of definition.



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