Anus gazing with Nietzsche

prozak at anus.com prozak at anus.com
Thu Feb 27 23:10:20 CST 2003


> One of Pynchon's themes has  to
> do with the conflict between a resentment against life
> & an affinity with it.

Be careful bringing up ressentiment on this list, you anti-Semite.

[8.1] But you do not comprehend this? You are incapable of seeing 
something that required two thousand years to achieve victory? -- 
There is nothing to wonder at in that: all protracted things are hard 
to see, to see whole. That, however, is what has happened: from the 
trunk of that tree of vengefulness and hatred, Jewish hatred -- the 
profoundest and sublimest kind of hatred, capable of creating ideals 
and reversing values, the like of which has never existed on earth 
before -- there grew something equally incomparable, a new love, the 
profoundest and sublimest kind of love - and from what other trunk 
could it have grown? 
[8.2] One should not imagine it grew up as the denial of that thirst 
for revenge, as the opposite of Jewish hatred! No, the reverse is 
true! That love grew out of it as its crown, as its triumphant crown 
spreading itself farther and farther into the purest brightness and 
sunlight, driven as it were into the domain of light and the heights 
in pursuit of the goals of that hatred -- victory, spoil, and 
seduction -- by the same impulse that drove the roots of that hatred 
deeper and deeper and more and more covetously into all that was 
profound and evil. This Jesus of Nazareth, the incarnate gospel of 
love, this "Redeemer" who brought blessedness and victory to the 
poor, the sick, and the sinners -- was he not this seduction in its 
most uncanny and irresistible form, a seduction and bypath to 
precisely those Jewish values and new ideals? Did Israel not attain 
the ultimate goal of its sublime vengefulness precisely through the 
bypath of this "Redeemer," this ostensible opponent and disintegrator 
of Israel? Was it not part of the secret black art of truly grand 
politics of revenge, of a farseeing, subterranean, slowly advancing, 
and premeditated revenge, that Israel must itself deny the real 
instrument of its revenge before all the world as a mortal enemy and 
nail it to the cross, so that "all the world," namely all the 
opponents of Israel, could unhesitatingly swallow just this bait? 
...
[10.1] The slave revolt in morality begins when ressentiment itself 
becomes creative and gives birth to values: the ressentiment of 
natures that are denied the true reaction, that of deeds, and 
compensate themselves with an imaginary revenge. While every noble 
morality develops from a triumphant affirmation of itself, slave 
morality from the outset says No to what is "outside," what is 
"different," what is "not itself"; and this No is its creative deed. 
This inversion of the value-positing eye -- this need to direct one's 
view outward instead of back to oneself -- is of the essence of 
ressentiment: in order to exist, slave morality always first needs a 
hostile external world; it needs, physiologically speaking, external 
stimuli in order to act at all -- its action is fundamentally 
reaction. 
from The Geneaology of Morals by F.W. Nietzsche 

> Nevertheless, the bomb, the destruction of life
> forms, is not exactly the nihilism Nietzsche has in
> mind even if the results are what are to be expected
> from a consciousness guided by hatred and resentment
> against life and also what Nietzsche called a
> resentment against time. The resentment against time
> is responsible for the irresponsible abuse of 
> resources that will be needed in the future and the
> denial of responsibility for the past.

Translation: death-denial.

> It might just as well be stated as: nothing that
> oppresses me and dominates me is true; everything that
> allows me to express the love of life is permitted. 

To me mindfulness in the Buddhist sense and nihilism are two parts of 
the same.

> Nietzsche is not the
> man to answer it because the death of god to him is
> tragic. A dancing god is gay and laughs, but is also a
> patriarchal tragedy. Nihilism is the death of
> patriarch and his power, his absolute power and
> authority. 

I think this is a stretch. Nietzsche affirmed all that was 
traditional, yet rejected all that required 
mercy, morality, and other life-denying artificials, as you express 
eloquently earlier in your 
message.

> Power, according to Nietzsche would pass
> from God and his the priests to the higher men. A
> shift in the patriarchal order. God or his son Satan
> or Simian or Anus. 

Or from what came before God.

-- 
Backup Rider of the Apocalypse
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