NP Tolkien Picks Up A Few More Bits Of Cultural Baggage

[Paul Mackin]

On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 23:44, barbara100 at jps.net wrote:
> on 8/1/03 12:24 AM, jbor at jbor at bigpond.com wrote:
> 
> > So, your argument now is that the orcs are a "race" of humans, members of
> > the human race, is it? Sorry, that simply doesn't gel with the text or
> film
> > at all, as the quotes illustrate.
> >
> > The orcs, just like the dwarves, elves, trolls etc, are *not human*.
> >
> > best
> 
> 
> i think you're being much too literal. you're talking as if there really are
> elves and trolls that you could absolutely argue were *not human*.

Yes, why be literal?  It's SO confining. Tends to remove the possibility
of keeping the thread going forever.
> 
> it doesn't gel with the text and film you say. it doesn't gel with reality
> either. those different species must be representative of something.  apes?
> monkeys? lions?  that doesn't gel.

The species called to mind here is the unicorn.

P.