NPPF - Pale Fire/Borges Linked to P

[cfalbert]

Michael Wood identifies Borges' "Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote" as an
model for PF.......

Found an affordable anthology at the local Borders......

It opens as follows:

"The visible oeuvre left by this novelist can be easily and briefly
enumerated; unpardonable, therefore, are the omissions and additions
perpetrated by Mme. Henri Bachelier in a  decietful catalog that a certain
newspaper, whose Protestant leanings are surely no secret, had been so
inconsiderate as  to inflict upon that newspaper's deplorable readers - few
and Calvinist (if not Masonic and circumcised) though they may be. Menard's
true friends have greeted that catalog with alarm, and even with a  degree
of sadness. One might note that only yesterday were we gathered before his
marmoreal place of rest, among the dreary cypresses, and  already Error is
attempting to tarnish his bright Memory.........Most decidedly, a brief
rectification is imperative......"

I seem to recall a COL49 commentator suggesting Borges' The Aleph as
Pynchon's model.......

love,
cfa



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jasper Fidget" <jasper at hatguild.org>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: NPPF - Preliminary - Pale Fire


> Does Marcel ever get to the point where he writes it?  Can't remember.  I
> suppose the definition might be extended to include all Kunstlerroman.
> (Interesting angle: _Pale Fire_ as Kunstlerroman.... -- a bit of a stretch
> certainly.)
>
> See 162 for Kinbote's rant on Proust.
>
> akaJasperFidget
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
> > Behalf Of Paul Mackin
> > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:08 PM
> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> > Subject: Re: NPPF - Preliminary - Pale Fire
> >
> > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 09:47, Jasper Fidget wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > _Pale Fire_ is an "involuted" (or "self-reflexive") novel -- a novel
> > that
> > > contains the details concerning its own origin or composition.  An
> > > antecedent is Andre Gide's _The Counterfeiters_ (1926) which is a
diary
> > kept
> > > by a novelist about a work-in-progress called _The Counterfeiters_
> > (followed
> > > in the same year by Gide's _Journal of The Counterfeiters_, the
journal
> > he'd
> > > kept while writing the novel _The Counterfeiters_).  There's at least
> > one
> > > reference to Gide in _Pale Fire_.  Another example of an involuted
> > novel:
> > > Raymond Queneau's _Les Enfants du Limon_ (1938).  Anyone got more?
> >
> > Strange word involuted. Shade uses involute in Canto Three.
> >
> > No sound,/No furtive light came from their involute/Abode,
> >
> > Isn't A la recherche du temps perdu a reflexive novel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > P.
> >
>
>