NPPF -- no need to relate to Pynchon . . . .?

Dave Monroe monrovius at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 11 01:21:52 CDT 2003


Again (and again and again ...), there's no point to
bickering about this, certainly not anymore. 
Anyone--ANYONE--who complains here about
Pynchon-unrelated posts is at best complaining
selectively, and, more likely, blatantly hypocritical.
 Let's face it, much, most, and, at times, all of the
friction here is the result of certain people simply
wanting to argue with certain other people, to the
point of what I've come to call "violent agreement,"
where people simply refuse to even grant the
possibility of agreement on anything, no matter how
otherwise uncontroversial.  The net result being, time
and effort wasted (even if it's "only" hitting the
"delete" key--trust me, I oughtta know, no small
effort there, either) ...

--- The Great Quail <quail at libyrinth.com> wrote:
> 
> Tim writes
> > Basically, I stand by my previous assertion:  a
> > few people who "pushed" for a group reading of PF
> > assured the P-list that, among other things, it
> > would help us understand and appreciate the works
> > of Pynchon.
> 
> Well, it's not like the Vinelanders weren't
> "pushing" back. If I recall, someone was circulating
> a hosting schedule before a decision was even made
> on what book to read.

This is true of either alleged "side" here.  And ...? 
So ...?  See what I mean?  We have no real procedure 
for making any such decision (this, by the way, is not
necessarily a bad thing).  Sure, someone might try to
drum up some support for something or another from the
List at large, and they might hear one way or another
from the rather fewer members who post on even a
biennial basis, but, ultimately, someone simply acts,
and others act and/or react dis/accordingly.  Or not. 
Not entirely unlike politics in most every offscreen
corner of the world most any of us inhabit here.  So,
in the meantime, there are those ostensibly discussing
Pale Fire, those ostensibly discussing Vineland, a few
attempting to keep up with both, and, interestingly
though not unpredictably, somewhat less friendly 
albeit barely on- to clearly off-topic chit-chat (not
necessarily undesirable, indeed, has been mentioned
here recently as one of the strengths of this list),
and rather more barely-disguised to outright hostility
over, well, what?  For my part, again, I'll barely
have the time to keep up with Vineland in the
foreseeable future (esp. whilst working on hosting an
early Ch.).  My complaint, insofar as it is one (and
it isn't, not quite), is that mounting a methodical PF
reading will likely divert effort that might otherwise
have been made reading VL.  Methodically, enduringly
so.  While doings on the P-List have never been
exclusively P-related, they've not generally been
pointedly, caculatedly not so.  And I just end up
deleting more items I might in some other situation
have been quite interested in.  But I've only so much
time, and my hands hurt, so ...

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