EDIT Group Read Headcount

[Otto]

I'd be interested in how many have read PF already and how many (like
myself) would be reading it for the first time.

----- Original Message -----
From: "pynchonoid" <pynchonoid at yahoo.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: EDIT Group Read Headcount


> --- Otto <ottosell at yahoo.de> wrote:
> > Really don't know what to do. Of course I would like
> > to read "Vineland" with
> > all of you, but on the other hand I think it's
> > strange that only the threat
> > of a non-Pynchon-novel group reading makes people
> > active to put up a
> > VLVL-schedule.
>
> I don't think you can support that allegation, Otto.
> It looks to me as if a group of P-listers wants to
> read Vineland for its own sake.  Your comment is
> unfair, and sounds emotionally motivated.
>

 I don't think you can support that allegation, Doug. Hearing especially you
talking of "unfair comments" is, eh, kind of disturbing. I know that David
sometimes can be offensive but he's never back-stabbing.

Emotionally motivated? If I'd speak out what my emotions really want me to
say you'd call your lawyer.

> After sleeping on it, I say let the folks who don't
> want to read Pynchon go ahead and read whatever they
> want.
>

It's good to hear that you're finally willing to allow this. It really would
have troubled me to do a group reading without your OK.

> People who want to read Pynchon and discuss Pynchon
> can do that, too -- for all the reasons others have
> presented, Vineland is an excellent choice given the
> occupation of the White House by those of facistic
> disposition.
>

I don't think you can support that last allegation, Doug, but as David has
said too this is especially the kind of thing I'm worried about during any
VLVL2 as long as Mr. Bush II is our president.

> It will be interesting to see if the anti-Pynchon
> clique can do anything interesting with Pale Fire.
>

anti-Pynchon clique? You're crazy, Doug.

There have already been interesting PF-posts yesterday.

> Meanwhile, I suspect that a Vineland discussion will
> be enjoyable, especially if fq and his Inner Circle
> are focused on Pale Fire.
>

Inner Circle? You're not pynchonoid, you're paranoid.

> I expect some people will want to read both novels and
> follow along with both discussions, too.
>

That's what I am definitely going to do if there is a PF-reading. I still
would prefer to do it one after the other (which is why I don't have
subscribed to the Vineland-list yet) but if it goes this way it'll be ok to
me. I would have liked to host a VL-chapter but I think I'm unable because
reading PF will take most of my time.

Otto

"Fragmentary echoes of old disputes,
of unforgotten offense taken in the
course of a long-ago high-table chitchat . . .
-Is it O.K. to be a Luddite?