Headcount Update #4,367

charles albert calbert at hslboxmaster.com
Fri Jun 13 08:29:05 CDT 2003


I'm not qualified to lead, but I'd be pleased to be someone else's
drone.....


love,
cfa



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jasper Fidget" <jasper at hatguild.org>
To: "'Pynchon-L'" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:11 AM
Subject: RE: Headcount Update #4,367


> I'm willing to compile some introductory material for Pale Fire to start
> it off, and then later to lead some other section (or more depending on
> volunteers).
>
> As some others have mentioned, this book does pose some complexity for
> really discussing it while remaining fair to those who haven't read it.
> How adverse are first-time readers to being supplied information that
> may simultaneously deepen their understanding while spoiling their own
> discovery?  Perhaps a [warning: potential spoiler] type system could be
> employed?
>
> The best approach is two readings.  The book is fairly easy going the
> first time through -- earlier sections tend to increase in density due
> to later sections, and this produces much paging back and forth (has
> anyone written a Skeleton Key to Pale Fire I wonder?) -- so I would
> recommend reading it once lightly (ignoring all the inscrutable
> references) then paying more attention on a subsequent reading.  But
> again, that's just the best approach, and perhaps not the most
> practical.
>
> Also, contrary to Mr. Kinbote's advice, I would *not* recommend reading
> it out of order the first time....
>
> Jasper Fidget
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org
> > [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On Behalf Of Tim Strzechowski
> > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 11:31 PM
> > To: Pynchon-L; pynchonoid at pynchonoid.org
> > Subject: Re: Headcount Update #4,367
> >
> >
> > I think it would be an excellent testament to the scholarship
> > and professionalism of this list (yes, it can be professional
> > when it wants to
> > be!) to be able to pull off a simul-read with _Pale Fire_ and
> > _Vineland_. I'd planned to reread PF during its group read
> > anyways, and I envisioned two group readings going on at the
> > same time, with listers dipping back and forth amongst the
> > various threaded discussions of both books.  I think the
> > possibilities are great!
> >
> > Truth be told, I have no time to handle anything for the PF
> > read (what with a three-week-old baby in the house, minimal
> > sleep, tee-ball games for my six-yr-old, and a _Vineland_
> > read to prep for).  I was sort of assuming the PF reading
> > would handle itself (since yesterday, it seemed so many
> > people wanted to do it).
> >
> > I think the organization of the _Pale Fire_ reading should go
> > to those who expressed an interest in doing so (Morris,
> > Quail, cfa, slothenvypride, et al).  If it goes, I'll be
> > lurking and piping in as I see fit.  In the meantime, I'm
> > looking forward to VLVL2.
> >
> > Tim
>
>





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