M.A.D. Internet roots

[pynchonoid]

--- Jasper Fidget <jasper at hatguild.org> wrote:
> I never disputed that.  I disputed its present day
> similarity.

Thanks for the clarification.  Fact remains, that the
continuity between ARPARNET and Internet remains
intact, the ARPANET
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org
> [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
> > Behalf Of pynchonoid
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:19 PM
> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> > Subject: Re: M.A.D. Internet roots
> > 
> > --- Malignd <malignd at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > <<Wrong.  ARPANET's was designed as a network
> that
> > > would withstand massive enemy attack and still
> > > permit
> > > the US government to maintain command and
> control,
> > > that is not a requirement applied
> retroactively.>>
> > >
> > > Yes, you've said that.  So have I.  So have
> others.
> > 
> > Actually, the ARPANET as origin of the Internet
> was
> > disputed by Mr. Fidget.
> > 
> > >  This
> > > primitive interent was for a government to
> maintain
> > > command and control of its own affairs not the
> > > affairs
> > > of its citizens
> > 
> > So you're arguing that the government's concern is
> not
> > its citizens, but instead its own survivability.
> > That's the problem, of course -- one that has been
> > wonderfully lampooned in the black comedy Dr.
> > Strangelove, where nuclear war provides the
> > opportunity for the US ruling elite to shack up
> with
> > multiple wives, etc., while  ordinary citizens
> turn
> > into ash.
> > 
> > 
> > > And its means of withstanding attack was
> > > decentralization.
> > 
> > Which permits its use now for social control as
> > Pynchon observes.  Decentralization of the network
> > offers millions of places within the Internet to
> snoop
> > on people (then lock them up if necessary).
> > 
> > The Internet emerges as a part of the Mutally
> Assured
> > Destruction scenarios that Pynchon, and others,
> have
> > rightfully characterized as "criminally insane."
> > 
> > Fortunately, people have found a way to use this
> tool,
> > the Internet, like others before it, in
> constructive,
> > creative ways.  Unfortunately, this hasn't
> prevented
> > governments from using the same tool for social
> > control (in both positive and negative forms), nor
> has
> > it prevented corporations from using the Internet
> to
> > induce the forms of behavior they desire.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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