pynchon agnostic? II

[thomas kyhn rovsing hjoernet]

On 09/03/03 19:43, "Cyrus" <cyrusgeo at netscape.net> wrote:

> 
> See also the catholic encyclopedia for a more detailed analysis:
> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09328a.htm
> 
> thomas kyhn rovsing hjoernet wrote:
> 
>> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was
>> God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him;
>> and without him was not any thing made that was made.
>> 
>> There you have it, it was all produced by language.
>>  
>> 
> Sorry, Thomas, but in your citation "word" has nothing to do with language.
> From the OED:

Nothing at all? The etymology below seems to indicate some relation, no?

> Logos. Theol. and Philos.
> [Gr. "logos", word, speech, discourse, reason, f. "log-", ablaut-variant
> of "leg-" in "leg-ein", to say.]
> A term used by Greek (esp. Hellenistic and Neo-Platonist) philosophers
> in certain metaphysical and theological applications developed from one
> or both of its ordinary senses _reason' and _word'; also adopted in
> three passages of the Johannine writings of the N.T. (where the English
> versions render it by _Word') as a designation of Jesus Christ; hence
> employed by Christian theologians, esp. those who were versed in Greek
> philosophy, as a title of the Second Person of the Trinity. By mod.
> writers the Gr. word is used untranslated in historical expositions of
> ancient philosophical speculation, and in discussions of the doctrine of
> the Trinity in its philosophical aspects.
> 
> See also the catholic encyclopedia for a more detailed analysis:
> http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09328a.htm
> 
> As for the act of Creation, sure, the Bible says: "God said" and "God
> called". You seem to imply He used language. But why? Language is a tool
> for communication. With whom did God wish to communicate? There was
> nothing before He created the Earth, was there? And what language did He
> supposedly speak? All, right, here is where theology begins, so I must stop.
> 
> respectfully (I mean it)
> Cyrus

To tell you the truth, I wasn't completely convinced by my hypothesis
myself. Reasoning on the basis of religious texts appears mostly to have
grotesque consequences.


Thomas