pynchon agnostic? II

thomas kyhn rovsing hjoernet tkrh at worldonline.dk
Sun Mar 9 16:18:09 CST 2003


On 09/03/03 22:25, "jbor" <jbor at bigpond.com> wrote:

> on 9/3/03 10:37 PM, thomas kyhn rovsing hjoernet at tkrh at worldonline.dk
> wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>>>>> 'I' and 'you' are positions made available by language.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The differentiated "positions" do exist prior to language, however.
>>>> 
>>>> No. It's only possible to occupy these positions in language.
>>> 
>>> Rubbish. 
>> 
>> Impressive argument.
> 
> Thanks. As corporeal beings you and I are separate.

I did not say we/they weren't.

> Thankfully. 

Thank you.

> This
> separation has nothing to do with language. That is obvious. Your argument
> that it is "only possible to occupy the positions in language" is rubbish.

Thank you. Occupying the 'I' position, becoming 'I', implies the possibility
of a 'you' and a third person, as well as the possibility of changing
positions. The positions of 'you' and 'I' imply interlocutory relations and
interlocutory relations depend on language.

> Your abuse of Derrida and the Old Testament notwithstanding, the pronouns
> "you" and "I" are adaptable to different (and differentiated) speakers'
> contexts and they simply signify the pre-existing separation.

As for the OT, I've already stated etc. But what 'abuse of Derrida' are you
referring to?


Thomas




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