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[David Morris]

The difference between Vonnegut's statement and mine has to do with which party
is responsible for the "wrecked self-respect."   Vonnegut implies that America
caused the wreck.  I'd say the wreck is due to the immaturity of the wreckee. 
Take Cuba, for example.  Do Cubans hate America?  Clearly they are in a
position of inferiority, but that hasn't resulted in America-hating.

David Morris

--- davemarc <davemarc at panix.com> wrote:
> Vonnegut writes, "We are hated because our corporations have been the
> principal deliverers and imposers of new technologies and economic schemes
> that have wrecked the self-respect, the cultures of men, women and children
> in so many other societies."
> 
> Morris writes "Vonnegut is full of shit," explaining "America is hated
> primarily because of its superiority of power.  THAT is what wrecks the
> self-respect of third-world countries dominated by theologies which tell
> them that THEY should be the rulers of the earth."
> 
> Frankly, I don't see much of a difference between Vonnegut and Morris here.
> Should I conclude that they're both full of shit?  
> 
> I don't think so.
> 
> d.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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