Religious Fundamentalism in Orwell and Pynchon

[Otto]

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From: "jbor" <jbor at bigpond.com>
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Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: Religious Fundamentalism in Orwell and Pynchon


> >> I think Otto did offer the argument that Pynchon is
> >> using the "allusions" to 9/11 and suchlike as warnings
> >> in much the same way that Orwell's novel
> >> serves as a warning.
>
> on 23/5/03 12:00 AM, Otto wrote:
>
> > Exactly. For me that's the point being made.
> > Some get it, some not, that's all, no deficient readings.
> > But if I'm totally wrong we have to go back to the
> > initial post asking more or less: What the heck he's
> > talking about in this paragraph?
>
> You harangue s~Z for this,

I harangue nobody.

> but what's so different about you implying here
> that a case hasn't been made for what the paragraph,
> sans any allusion to
> 9/11 and the Patriot Act, is actually talking about?
>

But there is an allusion to the Patriot Act: "With the homeland in danger
..."

> The reception of Orwell's "dissident" stance during WW II. England during
> the Blitz. Generalisations about people's responses in times of war and
> "emergency". The Conservative/Labour war cabinet lead by Churchill.
>
> best