"Orwellian, dude!"

[pynchonoid]

You read my posts as dishonestly as you read Pynchon, 
 my friend. Here's the next paragraph (as quoted in my
earlier post) that puts Pynchon's Bill-and-Ted joke in
context: 

"Specific predictions are only details, after all.
What is perhaps most importnat, indeed necessary, to a
working prophet, is to be able to see deeper than most
of us into the human soul. Orwell in 1948 understood
that despite the Axis defeat, the will to fascism had
not gone away, that far from having seen its day it
had perhaps not yet even come into its own-- the
corruption of spirit, the irrestible human addiction
to power, were already long in place, as well-known
aspects of the third Reich and Stalin's USSR, even the
British Labour party-- like first drafts of a terrible
future. What could prevent the same thing from
happening to Britain and the United States? Moral
superiority?  Good intentions?  Clean living?"
- -Pynchon, 1984 Foreword

> pynchonoid at yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> > Im this instance I agree with Pynchon and the
> > Valley Boys, that what happened to Germany under
> > Hitler and the USSR under Stalin might happen in
> the
> > US or Britain.


--- jbor <jbor at bigpond.com> wrote:
> on 23/5/03 10:27 AM, pynchonoid at
 
> Of course, this isn't what is said in the parodic
> conversation at all.

But I was discussing the longer passage in which the
conversation takes place.  Rip that conversation out
of context if you need to, but it's a lame way to try
to make a  point -- isn't that what you're always
whining about others doing?  What a hypocrite. Plus,
you're argument assumes that Pynchon judges these
speakers harshly the way you do, and I don't know,
somehow I just don't get the feeling that Pynchon is
the elitist misanthrope you are.


>     "Wow, the Government has turned into Big
> Brother, *just like
>     Orwell predicted!* Something, huh?" "Orwellian,
> dude!" (xvi)

Out of the mouths of babes...


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