1984 Foreword: allusion

[Paul Mackin]

On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 13:28, Dave Monroe wrote:
> No, no, no ...

Broken record.


> 
> --- Paul Mackin <paul.mackin at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > [Terrance]
> >  
> > > Right. Not to knock Dave Monroe, but Dave is sort
> > > of attempting to re-read the archives now
> > > (alluding to, referring to, citing "how things
> > > got started predictably with Doug and the gang of
> > > what is it now, 7 or 9? when and we all know that
> > > this kind of revisionism has no real meaning here)
> > > as he complains that the debate was rigged, fixed
> > > in a predictable pattern of Doug & Dave against
> the
> > > gang. The truth is Dave posted the excerpts and
> > > asked us to respond to this question: WHat does
> > > the Foreword say about Thomas Pynchon?
> 
> Which STILL hasn't much been answered here, more about
> Orwell or even Doug than Pynchon.  My point is, you
> didn't NEED Doug to argue against his (or Paul's, or
> Otto's, or my) inevitable reading here,

But it's nice having him.


>  it's hardly a
> difficult reading to make. 

Not for you. 

>  It would occur no mtter
> what, even if only as a straw man target 

You don't want to even hint at the straw man possibilities. Sounds too
close to dead horse. 

> for the also
> inevitable contrary readings.

Yes, Virginia, contrary readings are inevitable.



> > 
> > Which we DID, only some of things the forward said
> > or didn't say about the Pincher weren't things the
> > Gang of Two
> 
> As opposed to, what, the Gang of Six, or Seven inc.
> Keith now?  G7, indeed.  No, again, my question still
> hasn't been much answered, or even considered ...

Now I'm the one who gives up.

> 
> > ... wanted to hear or even could deal with. Which
> > is really perverse. I'm sure P himself would have
> > been far more understanding.
> 
> "Sure"?  And you're complianing that Doug or I claim
> privileged access to the Mind of Pynchon?  You're
> sounding like Robt. now.  Sheesh ...

I never complain and seldom explain.


> 
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