NPPF: Notes Line 286
Mary Krimmel
mary at krimmel.net
Tue Oct 14 00:09:21 CDT 2003
At 07:39 PM 10/13/03 -0400, Paul Mackin wrote:
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>In Latin it's Et in Arcadia ego Virgil
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>Also the name of a Poussin painting. (shepherds discovering a tomb)
Can you or anyone tell us the context of Virgil's use of that phrase? Or
tell us what work it is found in? Was Virgil quoting someone else?
I have understood (from I don't know what sources) that the words are or
were inscribed on a tombstone and that they are the earliest known written
Latin; is that correct? The Poussin painting suggests the tombstone, but
which came first - the fact or generally accepted idea of the tomb, or the
painting?
Why does there never seem to be any doubt that the "ego" of the phrase is
Death? Even if there is no doubt that it was carved on a tombstone, that
seems to me to be no reason to conclude definitely that Death is the speaker.
Also, I have understood (again, no back-up) that Arcady has the reputation
of being an idyllic Eden-like spot; is that correct? I.e., does it have
such a reputation? If so, and if Death is the speaker, the phrase makes a
poignant point. But it looks to me as though it's often interpreted in
order to suggest the point, without any real justification.
Mary Krimmel
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