NPPF Commentary Line 49 shagbark

Glenn Scheper glenn_scheper at earthlink.net
Sat Sep 27 01:21:07 CDT 2003


I'm so far behind the read.
Did anyone mention Goethe's Ginkgo Biloba at C line 49?

http://www.dialogueofcultures.de/index.cfm/page/140/title/Kalender_Goethe_un
d_Ginkgo.htm
 Das Gedicht "Ginkgo biloba" von Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 "Dieses Baumes Blatt, der von Osten
 Meinem Garten anvertraut,
 Gibt geheimen Sinn zu kosten,
 Wie's den Wissenden erbaut.
 Ist es ein lebendig Wesen,
 Das sich in sich selbst getrennt?
 Sind es zwei, die sich erlesen,
 dass man sie als eines kennt?
 Solche Frage zu erwidern,
 Fand ich wohl den rechten Sinn;
 Fuhlst Du nicht an meinen Liedern,
 dass ich eins und doppelt bin?"

http://www.firstscience.co.uk/site/POEMS/goethe1.asp
 Ginkgo Biloba By Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 The leaf of this Eastern tree
 Which has been entrusted to my garden
 Offers a feast of secret significance,
 For the edification of the initiate.
 Is it one living thing
 That has become divided within itself?
 Are these two who have chosen each other,
 So that we know them as one?
 I think I have found the right answer
 To these questions;
 Do my songs not make you feel
 That I am both one and twain?

I find Goethe to be a master experiencer and expositor of both
monadic love (i.e., autofellatio) and dyadic heterosexual love.
He comprehends the god-words of ancient divine/poetic metaphors.
Although he does occasionally describe the distress that comes
during the poetic metanoia, he did not remain trapped therein.
I see no self-father problems that troubled so many (e.g. Jesus,
Horus, Oedipus, Hamlet), which may be signs of fillial fellatio.
Especially laudable, Goethe stands apart from other perpetually
depressed and anguished poets with his upbeat dyadic love poems.

A further Goethe tidbit from my web page theword.htm titilates:

While I was reading over many hundreds of Goethe's poem pages
to catalog some into my essay any I suspect show autofellatio,
or the usual related poetic themes (metaphors of autofellatio,
comparison to mythic heros, existential crisis, transcendence,
reflexive bodily hermeneutics, contrast with dyadic sexuality)
and I have thus far culled out some 70 URLs, with rough notes;

Then I came to this one about a maid, and I thought, "What a dull
topic, by comparison." But then I pondered it some more, and lo!
I realized that the spinner was metaphoric of autocunnilingus,
perhaps a reworking inspired by gyn name: "Rumple-stilt-skin."

The thread spun hung from her clitoris above, to her mouth below.
The mouth is that alchemical vessel of fire, fervency, to bleach.

http://www.everypoet.com/archive/poetry/Goethe/goethe_the_spinner.htm
 THE SPINNER.
 As I calmly sat and span,
 Toiling with all zeal,
 Lo! a young and handsome man
 Pass'd my spinning-wheel.
 And he praised,--what harm was there?--
 Sweet the things he said--
 Praised my flax-resembling hair,
 And the even thread.
 He with this was not content,
 But must needs do more;
 And in twain the thread was rent,
 Though 'twas safe before.
 And the flax's stonelike weight
 Needed to be told;
 But no longer was its state
 Valued as of old.
 When I took it to the weaver,
 Something felt I start,
 And more quickly, as with fever,
 Throbb'd my trembling heart.
 Then I bear the thread at length
 Through the heat, to bleach;
 But, alas, I scarce have strength
 To the pool to reach.
 What I in my little room
 Span so fine and slight,--
 As was likely. I presume--
 Came at last to light.

Anyway, did you catch C line 49: tree=grados?
AF = Stavros (pole) upon Golgatha (place of skull)
= crucifix = tree = grados ~ gradus = death.
 
Yours truly,
Glenn Scheper
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