VLVL Count Drugula, or Mucho the Munificent

[jbor]

>>> the "beer and tobacco headache" which isn't typical for a dope smoker.
>> 
>> Unless it's a case of too much tobacco in the mix. I don't think you can
>> realistically argue against the fact that there are drugs and wild parties
>> at the commune,
> 
> I admit that it's been the reality in those that these communes had become
> the dope Safeway's for the freaks living in the cities.

The "snitch Safeway" was the house Van Meter and Zoyd were living in at
Gordita Beach (25), where all the dopeheads were selling out on their
friends for a few bucks just so's they could score their next deal.
 
> I don't argue that there are no wild parties and drugs. We're told about
> wild parties with a lot of beer and tobacco, but no word of dope, acid or
> sex orgies here. Your "drug commune" is still speculation. My thought was
> that the "beer and tobacco headache" doesn't fit very well into the
> description of a typical "drug commune," as you've called the place.

I think it's far more likely that Zoyd's headache has been caused by too
much "spinner" in the mull. There's no mention anywhere else in the text
that Zoyd is a tobacco smoker; I find it unlikely that Pynchon would
suddenly turn him into one here, on page 307 of the novel, particularly when
Zoyd's suddenly got his "own" marijuana again the very next day (309.2).
What is also made quite clear in the section is that those commune members
looking for an all-night party are high (306.32-4).
 
> I have the impression that you don't get my points very well.

No, we have taxi drivers in this part of the world too. You seem intent on
glossing over Pynchon's critique of the 60s counterculture in the novel, and
I don't find much basis for your arguments and opinions in the actual text.

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