VLVL Brock and Frenesi

[Terrance]

Yeah,  the folks in the book (24fps, College of the Surf, Eliot X, Rex,
Zoyd and Frenesi and DL and the Pisk Sisters, Mucho and Van Meter  and
so on) do not represent the counterculture  (they are another whole sick
crew) and the events in the novel are not historical. Again, Nabokov's
advice to good readers applies: (paraphrased) original authors create
original worlds. Before we can compare the world of the novel with other
worlds we know, we need to do a close study the world the author has
created.  Robert is an excellent close reader of the text and he has
studied Pynchon's original worlds in the  manner advocated by Nabokov.
If you engage him in a discussion of the text you will discover that a
lot of the historical discussion is really just a waste of time.
However, this Pynchon List can not sustain a discussion of the worlds
Pynchon has created. I know, how about us two guys fight about the
definition of Fascism 
again. 


Malignd wrote:
> 
> Rob:
> 
> <<By 1968-9, the time depicted in the novel, the
> counterculture had forgotten all about civil rights
> and the Vietnam War, and this is something which *is*
> referred to and depicted in the text. >>
> 
> I'm not getting into this discussion on either side or
> criticizing the gist of Rob's argument necessarily,
> but  the above statement is certainly not true and a
> rather astonishing comment.
> 
> Nixon's elelction, the Chicago riots, the murders of
> Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King--all occured in
> 1968; the draft was still in effect, the bombing raids
> into Cambodia were still to come ...
> 
> Drugs do play havoc with memory, but the collective
> mind of the "counterculture" (another catch-all term
> that should be rubbished for its meaninglessness)
> wasn't quite so addled as that.
> 
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