VLVL2 Fascism

[Terrance]

davemarc wrote:
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> Terrance writes, "Why would [Pynchon] stay living in a nation that is
> dangerously close to fascism? Why would you? I wouldn't." 

It's easy to write that, but the fact that myriad educated and wealthy
targets of the Nazis continued living in Germany before and after the
rise of fascism is evidence
> that reading the situation correctly and then fleeing is not as easy as it
> might seem. 

You mean it wasn't then, in Germany. Assuming that P thinks that the USA
is a fascist State or neo-fascist State or dangerously close to a
fascistic State, why does he stay living in the USA? It's easy enough
for an affluent  US citizen like Thomas R. Pynchon to flee the USA and
go to dozens of other non-fascist nation states. Why would an affluent
person, critical of the fascist, neo-fascist, very close to fascist,
State, remain living in that State? If Pynchon is not dependent on the
Fascists or Neo-Fascists in the USA, why stay? Perhaps Pynchon is not so
foolish. He doesn't really think that the USA is a fascist state. Only
fools believe such nonsense. But his paranoid worlds (the fictional
worlds he creates) are another story altogether. In the world of VL (not
the USA), the fascists and the idealists are lovers. The visionaries,
the revolutionaries, the children are in love with the Man and big gun,
the boot in the face. That's not true of the USA. VL is a fairy tale. In
fairy tales, the big bad giant can be a Fascist or a Nazi. But in the
real world, we know better. Or are we sleeping. Wake up Zzzzzzzzzoyd. 

That's one reason why many thoughtful people find the fascist
> question worth exploring. Perhaps what's underneath the leaf is, um, the
> American id of slavery, apathy, genocide, racism, sexism, materialism, war
> crimes, political corruption, international opportunism, etc. that competes
> with the, um, democratic superego that the nation has trumpeted to its own
> people as well as the world at large. (Having just unleashed Freudian lingo
> in this form, do I dare ask whether Jung and his crowd dealt with that "leaf
> in the forest" stuff? Keith??)
> 
> d.