VLVL"the Movement"

[Paul Mackin]

On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 14:25, Malignd wrote:
> <<I think it's fair enough to say that by the end of
> '68 and into 1969 and beyond things were starting to
> fall apart pretty badly for the counterculture, in
> terms of it having once been a more or less unified 
> and potent sociocultural entity and political lobby.
> Internal bickering and fragmentation, Nixon in
> Washington, Altamont, the Manson murders, the slow
> disintegration of SDS, Kent State, the failure of the
> campus strikes, the Weathermen Underground and the New
> York apartment bombing -- all these things and more
> were sounding the death knell of "the Movement".>>
> 
> It might be fair, but it's inaccurate, in that it
> assumes a unity in--God--the "movement"--that was
> never the case.  You're noting and mourning the death
> of a figment.
> 
> <<It's easy to deride generalisations for their
> generality, and more often than not there will be
> specific exceptions and valid demurs. However, 
> to imply that an opposite situation was prevailing --
> that everything with "the Movement" was as vibrant and
> idealistic and hunky dory in 1969 as it had been
> earlier in the '60s, at Berkeley say -- simply isn't
> on.>>
> 
> One isn't dismissing your generalizations for their
> generality; what you describe as specific exceptions
> to what I assume you believe was the rule were not
> exceptions, rather examples of what was, for the most
> part, the case.  That there was more strife later than
> what existed at Berkeley--a single university campus
> during a relatively brief period--well; how could it
> have been otherwise?
> 



For an an account of the non-unified (never-unified) counter-culture
protest movement from the sixties and continuing well beyond the demise
of SDS see
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