Pynchon, the Beats & "conservative American Values"

Jerky tibby666 at rogers.com
Mon Apr 12 12:03:38 CDT 2004


I always got more of a "let's get our shit together, people" kind of vibe
from VL, rather than the "you lefties suck ass" vibe you seem to be picking
up on.

But that's just me.

Cheers!
YOPJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terrance" <lycidas2 at earthlink.net>
Cc: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Pynchon, the Beats & "conservative American Values"


> I don't think Pynchon is working very hard, as a writer, to
> > defend such "conservative American values".
>
> Who can defend the "conservative american values" you have listed here?
> Hmmmm? Nobody can. But the list you tack on to conservative american
> values can be tacked onto any group, liberal capitalist values,  white
> male values, classic liberal american values, choose whatever you like.
>
> What you can't do, Doug, is deal with what is in the texts.
>
> If VL is not a scathing satire of the Left,
>
> Why are Sasha and Frenesi attracted to men in uniform?
>
> Why does Zoyd date high school girls?
>
> Why does Hub betray his union brothers?
>
> Why does Rex shoot Weed?
>
> Why does Rex have sex with his car?
>
> Why does Eliot X, playing the rock and roll star,  manipulate the crowd
> and take Rex's car?
>
> Why does Frenesi love a fascist DOJ creep?
>
> Why do Vato and Blood set up their fellow soldiers and do business with
> the Vietcong?
>
> Why does Ralph Wayvone set up DL?
>
> Why have the Sisters turned a religious retreat into a business scam?
>
> Why does Van Meter do business with DEA agent Hector?
>
> Why are Hector and Zoyd romantic buddies?
>
> Why is Sasha driving a nail polish Caddy?
>
> Why does Prairie call for Brock to come back?
>
> Why do the Pisks go to a bomb making commune in Oregon?
>
> Why is Chè a teen prostitute?
>
> Why is Justin addicted to the Tube and why does he model himself after
> Reagan?
>
> Why does Pynchon ridicule the language, excuses, blame game,  of the
> Left on every page of VL?




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