VLVL Rex and Weed

[Terrance]

> I tend to think that in _Vineland_ Pynchon perceives and depicts the problem
> with the '60s Youth Movement and the way they tried to set up an opposition
> to the "fascist" government is that it took in all-comers -- infiltrators,
> zealots, extremists, hypocrites, monomaniacs, loonies, druggies -- which
> both sped up its collapse as a coherent political entity and which also made
> the Conservative government seem like -- or just made it -- the lesser of
> two evils. 

I disagree. It's certainly true that one of Frenesi's ideas about
Revolutionary Organizations is "100% no-foolin'-around solidarity ... we
can't shut anybody out ..." and it's certainly the case that this idea
is also a cornerstone in PR3. VL.235.25-37


And we know where Frenesi got this idea, her mother and grandmother ...
IWW, Joe Hill. And that's not all she got from Joe Hill & Co. 

And Frenesi is one of the keys to the problem Pynchon perceives and
fictionalizes. 



However,  Pynchon neither perceives nor depicts the problem of the '60's
youth movement as Frenesi's political problem or Frenesi's sexual
problem or Frenesi's ideas about political revolution or Light or
anything else.  

The problem is work.