VLVL What is Pynchon's attitude towards 24fps?

jbor jbor at bigpond.com
Mon Jan 5 17:51:03 CST 2004


>> In the current chapter, the description of their quibbling
>> about discrimination against pigs and 'roaches (both animal and vegetable),
>> and the Pisks' announcement that "signism" is "worse than sexism", comprises
>> an appalling parody (197-8), whether it's self-conscious or not, serving to
>> make a joke of and effectively derail legitimate Civil Rights (and feminist)
>> protests of the preceding era, and it again demonstrates just how off-kilter
>> the social and political sensibilities of this bunch of nitwits are.
> 
> And how unrepresentative of those who were really involved in
> the civil rights and anti-war movements they are.

No disrespect intended, but I'm actually more interested in Pynchon's views
on the era as evidenced in the novel we're discussing. Pynchon is, after
all, someone "who lived through those days" as well ... but so what? Other
people will have different perspectives and attitudes, obviously, and
different theories about who and what and where and when and why, and
whether it was "good" or "bad", but it's Pynchon's take that's relevant
here. I realise that you and others have a problem with Pynchon's satirical
representation of the counterculture in the novel.

It might be a good idea to try and use the subject line to differentiate
between discussion of the novel (VLVL), and personal reminiscences and
opinions about the relative merits and significance of MLK and Malcolm X and
rants about Halliburton &c (NP). Just a thought.

> Unfortunately,
> sexism was as prominent in these movements as in the rest
> of society.

I'm not sure what evidence of sexism in 24fps you're referring to, if any.
The recurring overtones of lesbian attraction are worth considering.
Elsewhere, both Brock and Zoyd are portrayed as chauvinistic.

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