Philosophischen Untersuchungen
o j m
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Mon Oct 18 18:59:08 CDT 2004
>Popper, Russell, Toulmin and numerous other major analytical types
>dismissed the PI;
And many other major analytical types--Sellars, Kripke, Davidson, etc.--has
praised the PI. Shortly after the Tractatus was published Wittgenstein
dismissed Russell as "superficial." So what?
> numerous students and associates of Wittgenstein asserted that Professor
> Ludwig of the 30s and 40s was mostly a charlatan, if not an outright
> mental case. He certainly had some problems. The Tractatus is
> considered profound and important, at least in philosophy departments.
And the Investigations aren't? They most certainly were in the department
I was in as an undergraduate. In fact, they were taken to be more
important and generative than the Tractatus. For someone who goes on and
on about establishment hypocrites, you sure justify yourself through the
universities quite a bit (and what are the universities but the
intellectual establishment?). If you want to critique the universities,
fine--there are many good reasons for such a critique--but don't then turn
and tell people they need to take classes to reach your level of
understanding. Talk about hypocritical.
> The poker incident at Cambridge--in which LW may or may not have
> threatened Sir Karl Popper with a fire poker after Popper made a
> disparaging comment about LW, shows him to be if not a nutjob, at least
> unstable. There are some reports that Uncle Bertie denounced his former
> prodigy at the poker incident and took sides with Popper and Toulmin and
> the anti-LW faction.
Again, this is a skewed view of the events. Perhaps you just don't like
the PI and want to forget that Wittgenstein did anything after the
Tractatus? I've read Edmonds and Eidenow's book (as well as McGee's) and
their account of the incident in question is far less skewed than you
present it as. Of course there are legitimate criticisms of the PI; a
worthwhile philosophical text is not one that is immune to criticism. Just
take a look at the mountains of books written about the Critique of Pure
Judgment, or Aristotle's Metaphysics, or Frege's Begriffsschrift. Great
books in philosophy generate and push forward discussion, not end it.
O.
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