Fiction vs History?

Ghetta Life ghetta_outta at hotmail.com
Wed Oct 27 10:48:50 CDT 2004



>From: Keith McMullen <keithsz at sbcglobal.net>
>
> >>>Well, what was your definition of it when you first asked the 
>question?<<<
>
>
>"To prove the accuracy of" was what I meant.
>
>So how does whatever is non-human that you were referring to prove  the 
>accuracy of your human assertion? I agree with the poster who said humans 
>are not the ultimate verifiers of what is real. When humans go, all of 
>their conceptualizations about reality go right along with them. There is 
>no way for humans to know what reality is beyond human conceptualizations, 
>and assertions about what reality is like outside of our conceptualizations 
>are impossible to verify, and are completely absurd.

Most of your statements above apply equally to the continuance of the cosmos 
after your own personal demise.  All empirical data points to the hypothesis 
that when you go the world will continue on without you.  The same would 
seem to be true for the race as a whole.

But the wording of your sentence, "There is no way for humans to know what 
reality is beyond human conceptualizations," is hard to nail down.  Human 
conceptualizations change by the moment with new data being constantly 
mulled over, so I'm not sure what you mean there.  But if you mean there is 
no way for humans to know things outside the realm of our five senses, then 
I'd say you were probably correct, though many would disagree.  To speculate 
about knowing things via a new sense-organ is probably impossible, just as 
is specuating about existing in another dimension.  So now that things are 
perfectly muddy, what were we talking about?

Ghetta

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