The Glory Days

[kelber at mindspring.com]

2. I'd have sex with him.


----Original Message-----
From: Joel Katz <mittelwerk at hotmail.com>
Sent: Jun 24, 2005 1:05 AM
To: pynchon-l at waste.org
Subject: Re: The Glory Days

the problem with this list is that:

1) pynchon is irrelevant, his metas obsolete (meta-obsolete?)

Pynchon wrote what he wanted to write.  He didn't self-consciously set out to "construct" a post-modernist novel.  However obscure GR gets, there's not a pretentious or condescending moment in the book.

2) he's ugly, even for a writer

 I'd have sex with him.

3) the whole recluse thing doesn't work if you're ugly

It's a definite obstacle to my having sex with him.

4) old listers have gotten older; young people are hyperconsumerist death 
vectors and come here only because they're reading pychon in their fucking 
bard seminar

Welcome to the wonderful world of reading glasses.  Yeah, you're probably right about the Bard seminar, except for the weird kid in the front row who looks like he's playing with himself on the sly.

5) anal sex is ubiquitous in porn, the quality of which has improved 
immensely since the dissolution of the former soviet empire.  as martin amis 
notes:  pussy is bullshit; anal is real

Gottfried has no argument with that.

6) the internet, folks?  these kinds of lists are like knitting circles now.

Yeah.

7) the world is colder, meaner place, and pynchon doesn't speak to it

Nasty, gratuitous violence in books and film gets really old really quickly.  Pynchon is never needlessly violent or twisted.  If it's there, (and not that often) it's for a good reason, not just because he's hoping Russell Crowe will star in the film version.

8) old-tyme listers sold off their trekkie memorabilia and moved to belize

Anyone have a Seven-of-Nine Barbie for sale?


>From: Keith McMullen <keithsz at sbcglobal.net>
>To: Pynchon Index Cacorum <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Subject: Re: The Glory Days
>Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:13:13 -0700
>
>'what is the P-List for?'
>
>it's a place where pynchon fans are farting around waiting for his next 
>novel to be published
>
>his other works have been discussed to death here
>
>when the new novel appears we'll set up a group read, old members will 
>re-appear, new members will join the fun, and we'll argue like crazed 
>idiots over every jot and tittle of the new text
>
>in the meanwhile, hold your nose
>

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