On Nov 12, 2005, at 1:52 AM, jbor at bigpond.com wrote: > These "old men", like Brigadier Pudding, are the 'managers' of "the > Firm". And they aren't "giddy in their beds" about the idea of > *saving* the world from Armagedon (Balkan or other wise), but by the > *prospect* of Armageddon. > > best > > Agreed. jody