Big Bang?
Otto
ottosell at yahoo.de
Sat Oct 1 09:13:25 CDT 2005
Cyrus never said that "atheism is the One True Belief" -- how can you
assert he did?
Otto
jbor at bigpond.com wrote:
> I respect your faith -- your belief that there are no gods. And
> basically that's all I've been saying all along, that people's beliefs
> should be respected.
>
> Your argument that atheism is the One True Belief because "God" is an
> existential claim which cannot be disproven was purely a semantic one.
> One can as easily label "God" a hypothesis or point out that the Big
> Bang theory is unfalsifiable. As such, it is exactly the same sort of
> logical proposition as Divine Creation.
>
> Your argument that "atheism is the absence of theism" is also purely
> semantic, and of course it can legitimately be turned around.
>
> There seems to be a general conviction that theism is a more
> "primitive" belief system than atheism. Well, yes it is, if it's an
> atheism which responds to the advent of religious faith in human
> civilisations. And if it's that sort of atheism we're talking about
> then it most certainly is a belief which has been constructed in
> opposition to another, pre-existing system(s) of belief.
>
> The only way you might logically contend that atheism is not a belief
> or faith is if you are asserting that your particular cult of atheism
> is a reversion to the earlier, prehistoric atheism.
> Historically-speaking, atheism is a more primitive or primal human
> state of mind or being than is theism. The latter superseded the
> former -- put the spokes into the wheel, you could say.
>
> best
>
> On 01/10/2005, at 7:42 PM, Cyrus wrote:
>
>> Maybe it's semantics to you. I understand that. But atheists take
>> this very seriously, because it is one of the ways theists keep
>> mirepresenting their position. Atheists make no claim. It is theists
>> who make the claim that a god exists. Therefore, the burden of proof
>> lies on the theists' side. Since there can be no proof, they employ
>> faith.
>>
>> And do you really believe the simple inversion of what the other
>> person says constitutes an argument?
>>
>> Cyrus
>
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